• ZERO- WHERE DID MY AD GO?
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    • Pricing - Know the current market value of the bike. Check Kelly Blue book, NADA, CycleTrader, Ebay, Craigslist (even though some people on Craigslist are asking non-realistically high prices and will never be able to sell the bike at their asking price), and know what the current market value of a similar bike is before considering a purchase. Consider the maintenance work or fixes that YOU need to do to the bike, and factor that into the price. It is ok to pay more for a bike that has had all of the maintenance work done to it recently, or pay less and get a bike that needs some work, but you must know this in advance and be ok with it.
    • Inspecting the bike: if you are not experienced yourself, have a mechanic or an experienced friend check the bike before making a purchase. Crashed bikes:This is even more important if you are buying a bike that is being sold at a cheaper price with damages that the buyer is required to fix. In these cases, doing a frame check that will show any frame/fork/geometry damages is HIGHLY recommended. Do NOT simply rely on the information that the seller is providing, even he/she may not be aware of all the problems. Have the crashed bike checked and know what you are getting into.
    • Clean title, Salvage title A clean title doesn't mean the bike is free of serious issues. A Salvaged title doesn't mean the bike may have any problems. Every case is different. Some bikes are seriously damaged in a crash, but an insurance claim is never made on them, so they still have a clean title. Some bikes have had mostly cosmetic damages in a crash, but the insurance company decided to pay off the bike and salvage the title rather than spending the money to fix it. Know what you are getting into and don't make any assumptions based on what the seller is telling you.
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    4- DO NOT make your opinion known in the seller's ad

    • Comments within a sale thread should be on topic and educational. Aggressive critiques and inside jokes will not be tolerated. Constructive dialogue is a valuable feature of the barf classifieds section and community as a whole. Flame wars and unsubstantiated accusations help neither seller or buyer. Don't fuck it up, because the next step is disabling the "reply" feature entirely.
    • If you disagree with a price, keep it to yourself. The seller has set the price. If you don't like it, don't buy it and move on. If you really feel strongly about it, then PM the seller.
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      BARF isn't craigslist, ebay, cycletrader, etc. Buyers who are looking to buy from random strangers do so on one of the above mentioned sites. Those who only post in Classifieds sections and don't take part in other parts of BARF are no different than any other random sellers on Craigslist, etc., and should use channels other than BARF to try and sell their items.
    • If you're affiliated with a store/shop, please contact budman regarding sponsorship options. ALL non-sponsor commercial posts will be deleted. Site sponsors should post using only one account that is assigned a BARF SPONSOR tag.
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    6- DO NOT repost funny/strange/not-related-to-you ads from Craigslist or elsewhere on BARF or anywhere else for that matter.
    • No reposting
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    • No reposting. If what you're about to post isn't for sale BY YOU, don't post it.

    7- SELLING FOR A FRIEND:
    • Is not allowed.

    8- Feeler, Testing Waters etc:
    • Is no longer allowed.

      • If you are unsure of the fair price of your item, use the search function to research other similar items, ebay, craigslist, nadaguides, kelly blue book or whatever else is applicable. The classifieds section is not a discussion forum, thus not the place to be asking for opinions on market value that might lead to massive gray areas of conversation that violate preceding rules outlined above.
  • ZERO- WHERE DID MY AD GO?
    • It has likely been deleted for running egregiously afoul of the rules below. Feel Free to try again

    1- DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SELL THE FOLLOWING ON BARF:
    • animals, though free re-homing is ok.
    • anything illegal.
    • drugs, legal or not.

    2- Sellers, for best results... please read and follow these instructions:

    • Asking price [MANDATORY] in the BODY ONLY. DO NOT PUT PRICE IN THE TITLE
      • motorcycle or other vehicle:
        - make [MANDATORY]
        - model [MANDATORY]
        - year [MANDATORY]
        - Pictures [FIRST THING THAT WILL BE ASKED FOR IF YOU DON'T, BUT NOT MANDATORY]
        - mileage
        - title info
        - current condition
        - maintenance history
        - accident history
        - location
      • If selling riding gear, include:
        - size in the title of the thread. [MANDATORY]
        - in your post, include: intended gender/body weight/height/inseam/waist range that best fits the item.

    • Do not include the price in the title. You won't be able to edit it later. Put the price in the body of your post.
    • DO NOT INCLUDE LINKS TO 3RD PARTY SALES SITES Copy/paste your ad to BARF and make sure it includes the info above.
    • Edit your original post and change the price there... many buyers will not look beyond that point if you change the price later on further into the thread. Also, remember to add SOLD to first line of the first post when the item has been sold.
    • Please use the "Report this post to a moderator" (
      ) option at the lower left portion of the post if item is sold or to report erroneous posts or threads, and it will be taken care of.
    • With any indication that an item is sold, the thread will be locked by moderators. It is not fair to other valid ads to be pushed down the list when side discussions bump a sold ad to the top of the list. Moderators will do their best in changing the title and adding a 'sold' to the beginning of the title to save a few clicks for others.


    3- Buyers, BEWARE!!!

    • Pricing - Know the current market value of the bike. Check Kelly Blue book, NADA, CycleTrader, Ebay, Craigslist (even though some people on Craigslist are asking non-realistically high prices and will never be able to sell the bike at their asking price), and know what the current market value of a similar bike is before considering a purchase. Consider the maintenance work or fixes that YOU need to do to the bike, and factor that into the price. It is ok to pay more for a bike that has had all of the maintenance work done to it recently, or pay less and get a bike that needs some work, but you must know this in advance and be ok with it.
    • Inspecting the bike: if you are not experienced yourself, have a mechanic or an experienced friend check the bike before making a purchase. Crashed bikes:This is even more important if you are buying a bike that is being sold at a cheaper price with damages that the buyer is required to fix. In these cases, doing a frame check that will show any frame/fork/geometry damages is HIGHLY recommended. Do NOT simply rely on the information that the seller is providing, even he/she may not be aware of all the problems. Have the crashed bike checked and know what you are getting into.
    • Clean title, Salvage title A clean title doesn't mean the bike is free of serious issues. A Salvaged title doesn't mean the bike may have any problems. Every case is different. Some bikes are seriously damaged in a crash, but an insurance claim is never made on them, so they still have a clean title. Some bikes have had mostly cosmetic damages in a crash, but the insurance company decided to pay off the bike and salvage the title rather than spending the money to fix it. Know what you are getting into and don't make any assumptions based on what the seller is telling you.
    • Registration: Know about the current registration status of the bike. Check with DMV if you have any questions about any possible back fees and other title/registration questions (out of state title, no title with bill of sales only, etc.) before purchasing the bike.
    • Some additional tips: You can find some more useful info here: http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216958

    4- DO NOT make your opinion known in the seller's ad

    • Comments within a sale thread should be on topic and educational. Aggressive critiques and inside jokes will not be tolerated. Constructive dialogue is a valuable feature of the barf classifieds section and community as a whole. Flame wars and unsubstantiated accusations help neither seller or buyer. Don't fuck it up, because the next step is disabling the "reply" feature entirely.
    • If you disagree with a price, keep it to yourself. The seller has set the price. If you don't like it, don't buy it and move on. If you really feel strongly about it, then PM the seller.
    • If you are interested in an item, feel free to PM, email or contact the seller privately. Feel free to post if you need clarification... however, your post should be in line with above mentioned rules.
    • If you are aware of a serious issue with an ad (SPAM, stolen goods, a frame damaged bike being advertised as a 'never crashed' bike, etc.) please PM a moderator about it.

    5- DO NOT SPAM the classifieds section on BARF

    • Spamming entails using only the classifieds sections of BARF without taking part in other sections of BARF (regardless of whether the ad is for a personal item or a business.) The appeal of BARF classifieds is to enable and connect BARFers with some established history on BARF to one another.

      BARF isn't craigslist, ebay, cycletrader, etc. Buyers who are looking to buy from random strangers do so on one of the above mentioned sites. Those who only post in Classifieds sections and don't take part in other parts of BARF are no different than any other random sellers on Craigslist, etc., and should use channels other than BARF to try and sell their items.
    • If you're affiliated with a store/shop, please contact budman regarding sponsorship options. ALL non-sponsor commercial posts will be deleted. Site sponsors should post using only one account that is assigned a BARF SPONSOR tag.
    • We encourage the use of the classifieds by active contributing members. New members may post in the Classifieds forum after establishing minimal history on BARF (30 days and 30 posts). If you actively attempt to circumvent these minimum requirements only to post in classifieds, your account may be suspended. After reaching these minimums, posting only in the classifieds without taking part in other sections of BARF may result in being banned from BARF.

    6- DO NOT repost funny/strange/not-related-to-you ads from Craigslist or elsewhere on BARF or anywhere else for that matter.
    • No reposting
    • No reposting
    • No reposting. If what you're about to post isn't for sale BY YOU, don't post it.

    7- SELLING FOR A FRIEND:
    • Is not allowed.

    8- Feeler, Testing Waters etc:
    • Is no longer allowed.

      • If you are unsure of the fair price of your item, use the search function to research other similar items, ebay, craigslist, nadaguides, kelly blue book or whatever else is applicable. The classifieds section is not a discussion forum, thus not the place to be asking for opinions on market value that might lead to massive gray areas of conversation that violate preceding rules outlined above.

2004 gsxr 600>>CLEAN TITLE<<<CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP!!!!!!!4600 FIRM.

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Soundave

Well-known member
Lol, sounded like one of those used car salesmen speeches while reading your ad. By the way, why do we need to bring a truck? Can it be ridden as is, or will there need to be some work done?
 
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yellowR6

Well-known member
welcome to barf!

what is the story behind the frame? Sound like you pissed someone off on craigslist.

Good luck in the sell. Good price for the bike.
 
evoempire777

evoempire777

Active member
haha, the guy asked me if i' will take $3400, my replay was rude as hell to that stupid low baller thats why he BSing about it, i saw that but i won't replay to he's ass, low life loser, $3400 get damn dirt bike!!!
 
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bykpimp

Well-known member
Hmmmm, I think you're full of shit and he was/is right. Please tell us more about the BENT FRRAME.
 
peter24l

peter24l

Well-known member
some guy is talking shit about your bike on craigslist.. just thought u might want to know. kool lookn bike btw. i emailed u a while back.. never got a reply.
 
evoempire777

evoempire777

Active member
peter24l said:
some guy is talking shit about your bike on craigslist.. just thought u might want to know. kool lookn bike btw. i emailed u a while back.. never got a reply.
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thanks man, dude haters and people with planty of time, i won't replay to it.
 
Kid

Kid

Well-known member
i am interested for sure

can you pm with your location and specifics....i will take it off your hands if everything checks out

just pm me and we can discuss the sale
 
Wheelgarage

Wheelgarage

Well-known member
I normally dont mouth off on BARF, but this guy is full of shit...:shocker

Let him savor on selling a good piece of shit. I looked at the bike, and yes.....low balled him. He took it personally. Ahh....where are the reciepts for all the work you claim?

Let me explain...burnout queen, dropped, bent, thrashed..can I say :wackyiraq stunter? I'd rather buy a stunted bike from anyone else.......I'd only use the engine and other parts for a race bike. For the street....I wouldn't recommend it to a fellow rider. I'd now buy it for $2500....it has THAT MUCH in good parts. Good title...yes, on a bad frame.
:infrandom
 
afmotorsports

afmotorsports

Well-known member
Sorry, this kind of stuff irritates me. If someone states a price and then says "FIRM", why would you lowball him??? If you don't think the bike is worth what he's asking, walk away. If he doesn't sell it for a while because the bike is priced too high, he may drop the price or maybe just not sell the bike. Even if the price was "OBO", a reasonable offer is generally considered 10-20% below asking price, not 30%.

I guess I might be a little more sensitive to lowballers because I recently posted on CL my mint conditioin 03 Z1000 with a bunch of extras and less than 3k miles for $6k FIRM, so what's one of the first e-mails I get off craigslist? "I know you said $6K FIRM, but my offer is $4k." I almost wanted to go through the effort of meeting this a-hole so I could punch him in the nose! :mad

Bottom line: I haven't seen this bike and I don't know if it's worth $4,600 or not, but have some respect for the guy if he says "FIRM" on the price. FWIW, I don't think you could even buy a salvaged 600 from Fremont Cycle Salvage for $3,400... nevermind $2,500.
 
Kid

Kid

Well-known member
umm...yeah....i am not sure about the bike...i spoke to him and it looks kinda scetchy

there is a lot of cosmetic damage and a ton of stickers that are possibly hiding more damage....it just doesn't look lke he took very good care of the bike....oh well
 
Wheelgarage

Wheelgarage

Well-known member
afmotorsports said:
Sorry, this kind of stuff irritates me. If someone states a price and then says "FIRM", why would you lowball him??? If you don't think the bike is worth what he's asking, walk away. If he doesn't sell it for a while because the bike is priced too high, he may drop the price or maybe just not sell the bike. Even if the price was "OBO", a reasonable offer is generally considered 10-20% below asking price, not 30%.

I guess I might be a little more sensitive to lowballers because I recently posted on CL my mint conditioin 03 Z1000 with a bunch of extras and less than 3k miles for $6k FIRM, so what's one of the first e-mails I get off craigslist? "I know you said $6K FIRM, but my offer is $4k." I almost wanted to go through the effort of meeting this a-hole so I could punch him in the nose! :mad

Bottom line: I haven't seen this bike and I don't know if it's worth $4,600 or not, but have some respect for the guy if he says "FIRM" on the price. FWIW, I don't think you could even buy a salvaged 600 from Fremont Cycle Salvage for $3,400... nevermind $2,500.
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Alex...you need to see and talk to the guy. You will understand.
 
stan23

stan23

Well-known member
afmotorsports said:
Sorry, this kind of stuff irritates me. If someone states a price and then says "FIRM", why would you lowball him??? If you don't think the bike is worth what he's asking, walk away. If he doesn't sell it for a while because the bike is priced too high, he may drop the price or maybe just not sell the bike. Even if the price was "OBO", a reasonable offer is generally considered 10-20% below asking price, not 30%.

I guess I might be a little more sensitive to lowballers because I recently posted on CL my mint conditioin 03 Z1000 with a bunch of extras and less than 3k miles for $6k FIRM, so what's one of the first e-mails I get off craigslist? "I know you said $6K FIRM, but my offer is $4k." I almost wanted to go through the effort of meeting this a-hole so I could punch him in the nose! :mad

Bottom line: I haven't seen this bike and I don't know if it's worth $4,600 or not, but have some respect for the guy if he says "FIRM" on the price. FWIW, I don't think you could even buy a salvaged 600 from Fremont Cycle Salvage for $3,400... nevermind $2,500.
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from the ad:

<<some new rider took it for spin and droped the bike.>>


I don't think jmseven7 was lowballing. The seller obviously did not enclose a whole lot about the bike, and only when viewed in person, did you realize how bad shape the bike was. I had seen this ad a few weeks back when he was trying to sell it, and I asked him if I could get the bike checked out by a dealership -- he said no --

obviously the seller is hiding something about the bike and was not being honest in his ad. In that case, I find it perfectly acceptable to offer a lowered price.
 
evoempire777

evoempire777

Active member
stan23 said:
from the ad:

<<some new rider took it for spin and droped the bike.>>


I don't think jmseven7 was lowballing. The seller obviously did not enclose a whole lot about the bike, and only when viewed in person, did you realize how bad shape the bike was. I had seen this ad a few weeks back when he was trying to sell it, and I asked him if I could get the bike checked out by a dealership -- he said no --

obviously the seller is hiding something about the bike and was not being honest in his ad. In that case, I find it perfectly acceptable to offer a lowered price.
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STAN thank you very much for understanding!!:hand really
yea thy should check out cyclesalvage prices, cycle trader, wracked bikes with "GOOD PRICE" since i was 16 i been riding super scooters and bikes, if you have experince, when you ride this bike you'll FEEL the bike is talking 2 u straight!
and if no one going to buy it, it's ok i'll just keep it and take track days next summer with this bike, i love this bike, very balanced, you can get alot out of it, but still low ballers are always there, thy hate because you won't except there offers!
thanks!
 
evoempire777

evoempire777

Active member
RC AV8R said:
DUDE, HOW OLD ARE YOU, 2?

:rolleyes
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How old are you:confused, 2 old? rusty human try hard to be faster and faster? :cool
I'm trying to sell a bike here, take it or leave it!!! that simple!:shhh
hide what? more scratches? the bike needs side fairings no matter what, and the stickers i got them from Moto Wheels manager,(my friend) at seca day, 2005 MotoGP, thy worth you're bike! cycle trader or cycle salvage would sell the same bike with BEND frame no fairings no forks for 3500 around it, so you don't wanna buy it? it's OK, you think you're smart? investigating a murder about a bike?
the 2 years old here it's YOU, you really have time for it?, GET A LIFE MAN, watch TV, drink beer or something!!!:teeth

:shhh
 
luisimo

luisimo

Well-known member
If you really want to sell a motorcycle you will always sell it for lower that what you asked.

I had been in both ends, that is just business.
 
Ian01

Ian01

Well-known member
evoempire777 said:
How old are you:confused, 2 old? rusty human try hard to be faster and faster? :cool
I'm trying to sell a bike here, take it or leave it!!! that simple!:shhh
hide what? more scratches? the bike needs side fairings no matter what, and the stickers i got them from Moto Wheels manager,(my friend) at seca day, 2005 MotoGP, thy worth you're bike! it's OK, you think you're smart? investigating a murder about a bike?
the 2 years old here it's YOU, you really have time for it?, GET A LIFE MAN, watch TV, drink beer or something!!!:teeth

:shhh
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Man....this guy obviously has issues. I've seen him on craigslist and have heard many bad things throughout the week. I understand people getting upset about lowballers, but this guy is not honest. You get a good sense of who is legit and who is not after looking at numerous bikes and even calling many sellers. BARF is a very reputable site and I trust 99.9% of the posting members. It gets annoying when people come on the site with the intent to take advantage of others.
I heard that this guy wants no professional opinions on the bike's condition(dealerships are the devil:devil). Even if the bike has a straight frame, $4600 is not a price I would call great for a bike with scratched up fairings and rashed covers.

[[cycle trader or cycle salvage would sell the same bike with BEND frame no fairings no forks for 3500 around it, so you don't wanna buy it?]].........And I highly doubt this statement. I sold my 2003 636 w/ bent frame for $1200 and it had a lot of great useable parts.

This deal has too many shady circumstances to even tempt me....there are too many good deals right now and with the winter coming there will be even more.
 
Wheelgarage

Wheelgarage

Well-known member
Did you guys read the posts on craigslist on this guy?!??! Damn, I have never read soo many issues with this bike.

I knew this bike would become an issue with people on this forum....
 
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