18 Year old security shot and killed by police - LA

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asdfghwy

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ers-shoot-and-kill-los-angeles-security-guard

Andrew Heney, owner of the Freeway autoshop, told a local CBS affiliate: “We had a security guard that was out front, because we had just had certain issues with people tagging and stuff like that.”

“And then the police came up, and they pulled their guns on him and he ran because he was scared, and they shot and killed him. He’s got a clean background and everything. There’s no reason.”

The sheriff’s department said a handgun was found where the man, who died at the scene, was shot. Family members disputed that Guardado was armed. It was not clear if he had been wearing a uniform.
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Abarca, who works nearby, said that when he arrived at the scene Friday morning, sheriff’s deputies had already taken security cameras from the area. Neither he nor the shop owner had seen any of the footage.
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https://www.latimes.com/california/...eputy-shooting-security-guard-andres-guardado


"I turned around and saw two male white officers running up into the body shop where not even less than a second later I heard rapid gunshots," witness Georgina Laird told FOX 11. She heard "about four to five shots fired..," and "never heard them say ‘freeze’. I never once heard them say 'stop.' Nothing like that."
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https://www.foxla.com/news/communit...killed-in-deputy-involved-shooting-in-gardena


What is going on these days? Confiscating security footage? Shooting people running away?.. I think there would have to be some pretty damning evidence for this to look good for the sheriffs in any way. Se
 
DataDan

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From the LA Times:

Questions mounted Friday about the fatal shooting by a Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputy of an armed security guard near the auto body shop where he worked in Gardena.

The deputy fired on Andres Guardado about 6 p.m. Thursday in the 400 block of West Redondo Beach Boulevard after Guardado produced a gun and ran, Lt. Charles Calderaro said. At some point, two pursuing deputies confronted Guardado and one opened fire, he said.

But family members and some community activists said the shooting was unjustified and are demanding answers.

Calderaro said Guardado, 18, was not a licensed security guard, nor was he wearing a uniform or any marked clothing. He said the handgun found at the scene was not registered.
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ejv

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asdfghwy said:
What is going on these days? Confiscating security footage? Shooting people running away?.. I think there would have to be some pretty damning evidence for this to look good for the sheriffs in any way. Se
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Confused. Are you suggesting they shouldn't gather available evidence?
 
afm199

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Any citizen killed by the police is undesirable. Period. We don't have the police so that they can kill citizens.

That said, this was definitely one of those "but wait" situations.
 
scootergmc

scootergmc

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Let's all agree he wasn't an armed security guard and in legal possession of a handgun. Those are the facts in California. That's why you can't trust anything you read in the media anymore. The laws and requirements are there for everyone to read except those outlets rushing for clicks.
 
m_asim

m_asim

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LASD could've easily handled this by requiring body-cams. But they have been resisting tooth and nail so that a few corrupt cops can stay safe.

If the kid has an illegal gun and brandished it before running away, body-cams would've easily provided proof of a legal shoot.
 
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DesiDucati

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I don’t understand. Did the police take the camera and video recordings so they have evidence to prosecute the wrongful shooting? Or is the confiscation done with the goal of hiding evidence? If it’s number two, isn’t that another serious crime they are committing?
 
RRR70

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scootergmc said:
Let's all agree he wasn't an armed security guard and in legal possession of a handgun. Those are the facts in California. That's why you can't trust anything you read in the media anymore. The laws and requirements are there for everyone to read except those outlets rushing for clicks.
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At 18 he can not be in legal possession of a handgun.
 
m_asim

m_asim

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Any and all video of this incident may already have been destroyed by now. Here are the facts as they exist right now:

1. No proof that the gun that was found on the scene was in Andres' possession.
2. No reasonable explanation of why a person who was a student in good standing at LA Technical College and never in any legal trouble would brandish a weapon and run? Read the story linked in OP's post about the homeless lady talking about her interactions with Andres and ask yourself does that sound like a gangster criminal?
3. All the video evidence has disappeared into the hands of LASD. By the time, the evidence comes out it will be years and public attention may have moved to other news of the day and Andres will be forgotten memory like many before him.

For those not in LA or from LA, the LA Sheriff Department has a long and cherished history of acting more like a occupying force and its blatant flouting of laws - from the recent (successful) attempt to shield officers who took and shared photos of mangled bodies at Kobe's helicopter crash site to intra-agency gangs like Banditos to common practice of torturing prisoners.

So yeah anything that comes from LASD is treated by suspicion by Angelenos.
 
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Climber

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ejv said:
Confused. Are you suggesting they shouldn't gather available evidence?
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It looks very suspicious when they break into the shops and steal the recorders.

If they were justified, there was zero reason to do that, especially with the current events. There should have been a chain of possession created for the recorder to ensure that the very questions that are now coming up didn't happen. If the recordings are never released in their entirety, then they will deserve the negative views of their actions.

Somebody died a violent death. There should have been other people called in to gather evidence and document it.
 
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ejv

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I've been reading conflicting reports of how it occurred. If you think they are dirty you might conclude they are trying to destroy evidence. If you assume they were doing their job you might conclude they asked for available video evidence and we're denied consent to collect what they found so they took it to preserve it while getting a warrant. Might fall under a recognized exception to necessity for a warrant.

https://mynewsla.com/crime/2020/06/...h-by-sheriffs-deputy-carried-illegal-handgun/


With all the conflicting information I would be questioning everything including whether or not the deceased was even an employee. Considering how the apparently agreed upon facts occurred there are much more plausible explanations for his presence there.
 
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ejv

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In the link I posted the sheriff mentions he has been asking for them since December 2018 but the supervisors haven't approved it yet.
 
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