10 days of vacation, where to go?

KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus
So my vacation is coming up QUICKLY. My daughter is a 14 year old beginner on a TTR125 but extremely confident, brave enough and smart enough to ride some fairly rugged terrain. I'm on my red sticker KTM 450SXF, I'll go just about anywhere with a decent pace to not stall out or boil over.

I was thinking of doing a dirt bike and camping tour of the N/W and out towards Moab. However I HATE the heat and Moab seems like it's gonna be painfully hot. Oregon dunes also crossed my mind but if it's just sand and sand requiring paddles then I'll pass. I'd also REALLY like to take her on the Rubicon, all the way out and back. Hopefully 1 tank will be enough.

Any ideas of where to go riding, one destination every 2 days, traveling by truck.
 

onto1wheel

Riding All The Time
... My daughter is a 14 year old beginner on a TTR125....

and you want to take her for an out and back on the Rubicon?!
I don't know if you've ever done the rubicon, but I wouldn't call it "beginner friendly".
A good way to get a taste for rubicon might be blackwood canyon to Ellis peak and over to the top of the rubicon.
The Truckee area also has some good trails.
Oregon dunes? paddle tire is not needed for full size bikes, but a TTR125 would be pretty weak, even with a paddle tire me thinks.
Tillamook would be my choice for 10 days
 

KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus
https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/oregon_list_p4.htm

Prospect OHV Trail system was great, at the time kids were 12 and 16, girl, boy. RV camping, rode to trailhead river nearby. 10 days...enjoy!!

Thank you! I'll look into that when I get home. The site is blocked at work :rolleyes

and you want to take her for an out and back on the Rubicon?!
I don't know if you've ever done the rubicon, but I wouldn't call it "beginner friendly".
A good way to get a taste for rubicon might be blackwood canyon to Ellis peak and over to the top of the rubicon.
The Truckee area also has some good trails.
Oregon dunes? paddle tire is not needed for full size bikes, but a TTR125 would be pretty weak, even with a paddle tire me thinks.
Tillamook would be my choice for 10 days

Yeah sounds crazy but she actually enjoys the harder trails while others her age and level enjoy just cruising, she prefers following my lines.... which I always naturally take the MORE challenging lines without a second though.

Total of 10 days, riding multiple areas. I'd go nuts in one spot for 10 days.
 
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onto1wheel

Riding All The Time
Yeah sounds crazy but she actually enjoys the harder trails while others her age and level enjoy just cruising, she prefers following my lines.... which I always naturally take the MORE challenging lines without a second though.

Total of 10 days, riding multiple areas. I'd go nuts in one spot for 10 days.

That's awesome that she likes a good challenge!
Then I guess the question would be does she like to be challenged all day?
I guess only the two of you know how much is too much.
Should be a ton of fun riding a bunch of areas for ten days! Have a blast!
 

johnnymac

Well-known member
I'd also REALLY like to take her on the Rubicon, all the way out and back. Hopefully 1 tank will be enough.

A local place to test your skills on this is to head up Troll Trail from Harmony Gate (this needs to be verified, but this is where I think you can access it ;-)

Behind the turn around, off to the left, you can get to one part of Troll. If you can do this w/o problems, then might be worth the trip to Rubicon.

Note: I have been on part of both of these trails, but both are too difficult for me to finish...Even just going on the first part of Rubicon was great fun...but no way could I make it to the end (and certainly not back w/o being in a helicopter).
 

Butch

poseur
Staff member
Downeyville area is quite nice. Ive only done the Mtn Bike thing, but it is moto friendly, methinks. Challenging too. Pretty too.

Nice place to hang out.
 

KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus

how crazy, the weather forecast says rain.....EVERY DAY for weeks

Downieville sounds pretty cool, I'll look into camping options there. So far the oregon suggestions have been the best leads.

I've been checking out alltrails.com and it seems pretty cool and lists things I never even knew existed. I should invest in a small gps.
 
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TooBadBrad

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+1 on Prospect Oregon. It's an excellent place for family camping and riding. Fishing too. There's not a lot of harder stuff there, but if your board, ( I bet you won't be) you can go 1 hour north to China Hat.
 

CDONA

Home of Vortex tuning
I was at the Tahoe end of Rubicon and watched as a group of rookie spores on ATV's getting the tour. That wouldn't have happened in the '70s.
I've heard that the hard stuff has a "paved" bypass now.
 

KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus
Can anyone recommend a camp site for riding around Prospect for about 2 days? Some place we can ride straight out from camp? Next to a stream would be nice.

Wow, just discovered that out of state riders 16+ have to do an online certification course and youth have to take the same online course PLUS a hands on 2 hour class for $65 in order to ride at public ohvs

And you can't just guess your way through. It has penalties like if you miss too many, you have to wait 10 minutes to go back lol
 
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TooBadBrad

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You can just do the written part online and get a temporary permit. really not a big deal. You have to do the skills part to get a full lic, but you can decide that after you try it out for a week. Myself nor my grandkids have never been asked for a lic, but I'd recommend getting it. You do have to read up as it's mostly geared towards ATV & dune riding. I guess they were having a lot of serious injury's to minors at the dunes and this is how they responded. I don't know how successful it's been.
There is lots of info on line. all of the camps have designated OHV sites you can ride in & out of. This late they are probably all reserved, so you'll have to use the Woodruff play area overflow. Pit toilets and no water there, but close enough to the river to take a dip. The upside is the play area is loads of fun! It's a one way trail with a tight section called the maze and 2nd & 3rd gear stuff too.
There is about 170 miles of trail, and it's okay to use the hwy to connect trails. Our favorite is to trail ride up to Union Creek for an ice cream in the afternoon.

IMO, Downyville is just too rocky, steep and narrow to take anyone but a good "B" level rider too. Pretty, but very challenging
 

KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus
So the 10 days are up and...... Prospect OHV was A LOT of fun and an amazing places with free camping in great locations. Just LOTS of massive mosquitos that love to hang out in the shade. I would highly recommend it to ANYONE. You guys were right about this place. I was more worried about accidentally going on the wrong trails and etc etc but they truly were well marked. The trail map online are garbage but the giant printed ones at the ranger station were on point. Speaking of ranger stations, Oregon does their shit right and are extremely well organized and very reasonably priced in terms of developed camp grounds, access to information (in person at all hours of day and night). It is worth the extra couple hours to head to oregon versus hanging out around california I think. Plus with diesel at $2.79 instead of the ~$4 I'm paying in california, and non-ethanol regularly available, well worth it. Trails are basically posted as MC only Easy/More Difficult/Most difficult, or MC/ATV only Easy/More Difficult/Most Difficult and lastly MC/ATV/SXS with the 3 difficulty levels.

As for my beginner daughter.... she LOVED the more difficult single MC only track. For some reason, she kept wiping over and over and over and over on the double track MC/ATV trails on the most smooth sections. Just BAM, down, not a stone to be seen, sometimes on the straightest flat sections. We camped for free a few feet from the Rogue River (More like a stream this far up) and stayed up at the very northern portion of the area and didn't even get south to play at Woodruff or Union Creek. No issues with critters or bears, just those damn mosquitos. I even caught a couple varieties of trout in the small shallow pools using a tiny castmaster lure. There are actually fish in these streams lol. Very few riders/vehicles went by, I'd say 3-5 total per day surprisingly. But wow, those riding big loops are no joke, it took a good hour and half to loop back to camp.

https://goo.gl/maps/e5UzwPXcRRmWj2WX6

Unfortunately, I didn't even bother going to crater lake. I just wanted to cover distance after we packed up, cleaned up and got on the road. Next destination was Sunset Bay state park south of Coos bay. It was risky because we were leaving for a highly popular destination on a saturday but heck why not? Well the view there was as spectacular as I had remembered and.....campgrounds were completely booked. I had the option to book online but I cheaped out and didn't want to spend the extra $8 "online booking fee". Turned out it was one of the greatest decisions I made.

So we drive up the 101 and being that it was about 7pm every moto shop would be closed and I still needed dune flags. Luckily walmart sells bright orange 6 foot tall bicycle flags by Bell for $7 that are just large enough to meet state requirements, minimum 8" x 12" orange or red flag at least 9' from the ground and includes a metal axle (for bicycle) mounted bracket. After grabbing the flags, I jumped on google map and decided to head north to the first nearest campground at the oregon dunes to try out our luck on getting a camp spot. We pull in to a well developed state ohv campground, BTW it seems that every state owned campground that charges a fee has an onsite camp host, and the sign reads FULL. I pull in anyways just to ask and a little 6 year old boy hops out of the host RV spot and goes on to inform me of EVERY possible campground and scenario in the region in order to find a camp spot, this little guy was an absolute beast of an expert! Well, after a couple minutes getting schooled by the little guy, his father then informs me that this location, Horsfall Campgrounds, is a reservation only campground and there was a "dune fest" event going on this weekend that packed the dunes for miles.....however..... one camp site just JUST gotten a cancellation and we were in luck.....just by the skin of our teeth, I'll take it! This campground is completely paved parking area and designed heavily around having an RV/trailer but there is still a patch of dirt/grass at the end of each spot large enough to pitch a tent. For $25, this was a steal AND had running water/plumbed toilets/hot showers. At the every end of the road was the beach camping area but also paved but heavily sanded from the blowing winds. Halfway between us, you could camp out on the sand dunes for free. For me, nope my truck was NOT gonna be seeing much sand or salt, I'm too paranoid about that stuff.

https://goo.gl/maps/5SvYUHQ3SCLsrm7X6

We weren't sand ready at all but running her TTR125L at 6 PSI and my KTM 450SXF at 8 PSI gaves us plenty of traction for all of the riding we'd do there. Just no slow technical stuff, and momentum was key for not having paddles. My 450 rode wheelies in the dunes on just throttle alone, so I had plenty of traction. As for flag mounting, I spent hours figuring out how to mount the flag on the TTR and ended up mounting the bracket on a rear fender bolt at the back and melting a hole to stick the flag through. 6 zip ties later, it was well mounted and survived numerous drops. For my 450, I refused to mod, drill or touch my plastics, so I ziptied the bracket to the back of my camel back, voila I had my flag between 11-13 feet in the air. My daughter especially liked riding the soft and packed sand along the beach, she had fun in the open dunes too. Me being a nutjob, really like technical challenges but I had to make sure she didn't try to follow my blind lines lol.

Anyhow, we only stayed here one night and spent the remainder of the week touring Oregon/Washington. I wanted to loop back and see crater lake and ride the bottom half of prospect but a forest fire changed all that.

Just a few boring pictures, I didn't take too many and I'm sure you're tired of readings lol. And sadly, my profession prevents me from posting photos of myself/family/friends. But it really is an AMAZING place, Oregon just landed on my list of possible relocation possibilities.

Oregon dunes, Horsfall OHV campground
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Oregon dunes, a little something I some how noticed 200 yards away buried in the sand while blasting down the beach. Don't ask me how I knew to stop and dig in the sand for a sand colored object poking out of the sand the size of fist. It just did..... then again it goes with the career, the fine details.
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Cross the looooong interesting bridge in Astoria, OR on the way. There is an awesome RV park at the end of this bridge for cheap, extremely friendly owners with sons who used to race quads.
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Long Beach, WA where I had many great memories as a teen on 4th of July. The longest beach in the world they say, you can drive on it in your automobile and any "street legal(ized)" vehicle, but no OHV.
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The fire between Roseburg, OR and Medford, OR that would end the trip sooner than I had hoped. It was smokey, real smokey for a good 60+ miles. Pretty crazy for a small 175 acre fire.
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KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus
I was hoping we'd get a report, you delivered. sounds awesome!

I'm considering doing this dualsport up in Prospect on 9/21. I'm guessing I might be able to use a non plated bike for this (?)
http://www.blackdogdualsport.com/df_events.htm

From the friendly tipsy staff member of the park who happened to be in front of the ranger station when I rolled up at 10pm, he verified that yes you can ride your ohv on the paved highway to access the trails within the OHV trail area which is like 18 miles by 30 miles, a massive amount of riding space.

So I read the flyer you linked and it says the dualsport has to be street legal but I would say you could "get away" with a non plated bike. Depending how much pavement they pound but there are hundreds and hundreds of miles of trails in the prospect ohv.

Excellent!! Will have to check out Horsfall Campground. Thanks for the ride-along :)

Yeah, it's a fantastic campground but remember that if you want to get to the beach from the campground, you have to ride quite a few miles through the soft dunes and work your way around the lakes before you get to the beach. The "trails" or bark pathways that they mention in the trail map....... don't exist, it's all just sand sand and sand, no markers. You also are not allowed to ride your OHV on the paved roadway even though that's the fastest way to the beach. We kinda missed those signs until heading back from the beach.
 
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