10/6 - THill Kneeriders.com OPEN TRACK!

Kneerider

Kneerider

Member
Our OPEN TRACK DAYS during 2009 have been a BIG success, and we've had lots of fun. Tons of track time, good BBQ's, great riders, awesome machines...generally a great time. Many of you have inquired about our next event, and I'm happy to announce our last event of the year... :cool

October 6, Thunderhill, OPEN track...

FYI - THIS IS A TUESDAY, FOLLOWING PTT'S MONDAY EVENT. WE WILL HAVE CAMPING AT THE TRACK MONDAY NIGHT, for $25. If you can come up, and make BOTH days...you're welcome to stay at the track with us. This would make a 2 day event easy to manage, and a lot more fun! :party

Please see the general Kneeriders.com OPEN track days thread in the "Track Smack" forum on that site, or the "Track Days" page (from the button at the top of any page on the Kneeriders.com forums), or click the link below to register for this day now! Our OPEN format, pricing, and BBQ lunch will remain the same. DON'T MISS OUT! This day already has many riders signed up, and it will likely sell out quickly. Act now, and finish the track riding season BIG! :teeth

Kneeriders.com OPEN track day registration - CLICK HERE

See you all there!
 
megaspaz

megaspaz

Corner parker
hrm... thinking... YES!!! :party

I have long hair... can i get a discount? I promise i'll pad my underarmor. :teeth

speaking of which... would a hermaphrodite get the discount too?
 
evilbeef54

evilbeef54

Semper Paratus
couple of questions,
1. would this be a good event for a fairly experienced street rider (12 years on liter bikes) but first timer at the track?
2. how far is thill from the east bay (san Ramon)?
3. Anyone carpooling there?
4. Any open spots still?

I have really been interested in doing a track day to build up my skills, after taking a year off from bikes and jumping back in with a new to me cbr 1000rr i have been hitting up some local twisties and getting back into it, but really want to do a track day where i can safely work on skill building.
 
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reedcrr

Guest
Sounds really good and fun... everything but the definitive "no crash rule". IMHO should be on a case by case basis...

Since it is not I will not be attending... please consider changing this for your next event. From my point of view it is a complete waste of time and money to have something like debris "slow" side you, barely rash your plastic and send you home... I seen way to many 15 mph low sides sent packing at events where the absolute no crash rule was in effect and to me that is just plain silly.

What if your instructor goes down and grabs his back up bike? Allowed?

For clarification I have never crashed at the track... and dont plan too but I would be pissed if I was sent home over something minor... common sense rule please for the next event. For a preimum event at a premium cost I would expect a little rider respect with regard to "crashing".
 
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reedcrr

Guest
Hooli said:
Women pay less? :wtf
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Not enough women in the sport to begin with... I am all for getting them to the track at a lower cost... they are a hell of a lot better to look at as well. :teeth It's called niche marketing. :thumbup
 
R6Raff

R6Raff

Control = Speed
^^^

I understand the no crash policy to an extent, I saw a guy stack his bike in t8 at Thill then completely bin it just before t14 a session or two later... both of his crashes were pretty bad, god knows how he even managed to get back on the track after his first, I would count my stars that I and my bike walked away from a 100+ mph crash. Now in a situation like that I would say "hell no, your done for the day, be lucky you cracked only your helmet and not your melon"...

However, I think there is a huge difference between a 100mph crash at t8 and a 15mph offroad excursion at t5 resulting in a lowside which only lasted 5 feet. There have been certain situations where it was kinda BS to call a riders day done when the crash yeilded no more than a 3" scratch and some dirty fairings.

But I can understand having a 100% crash policy to eliminate peoples feeling like they had been unfairly kicked and someone else had not. A 100% crash policy is a good political way to cover yourself and protect your riders, so from that stand point I do support its existence but I would rather ride with another TDP that wont tell me that I can or cant ride. However if and when I am in a no crash policy situation I understand that, that is what I signed up for and will accept the ruling in which they are based on. Atleast we have a choice to ride with a multitude of TDP and each one varies slightly or drastically to fit a wide variety of riders.

Safe:ride

P.s. I wish I could make this one, but nrs a few days after... the wife hates it when I do more than 3 TD a month... :blah
 
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reedcrr

Guest
R6Raff said:
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I understand the no crash policy to an extent, I saw a guy stack his bike in t8 at Thill then completely bin it just before t14 a session or two later... both of his crashes were pretty bad, god knows how he even managed to get back on the track after his first, I would count my stars that I and my bike walked away from a 100+ mph crash. Now in a situation like that I would say "hell no, your done for the day, be lucky you cracked only your helmet and not your melon"...

However, I think there is a huge difference between a 100mph crash at t8 and a 15mph offroad excursion at t5 resulting in a lowside which only lasted 5 feet. There have been certain situations where it was kinda BS to call a riders day done when the crash yeilded no more than a 3" scratch and some dirty fairings.

But I can understand having a 100% crash policy to eliminate peoples feeling like they had been unfairly kicked and someone else had not. A 100% crash policy is a good political way to cover yourself and protect your riders, so from that stand point I do support its existence but I would rather ride with another TDP that wont tell me that I can or cant ride. However if and when I am in a no crash policy situation I understand that, that is what I signed up for and will accept the ruling in which they are based on. Atleast we have a choice to ride with a multitude of TDP and each one varies slightly or drastically to fit a wide variety of riders.

Safe:ride

P.s. I wish I could make this one, but nrs a few days after... the wife hates it when I do more than 3 TD a month... :blah
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I think it is a fairly easy distinction to make... other providers do it rather easily.
 
R6Raff

R6Raff

Control = Speed
reedcrr said:
I think it is a fairly easy distinction to make... other providers do it rather easily.
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No doubt, I think its more of a mental reinforcement to encourage riders to just be that much more careful so they don't risk losing a full trackday because they couldnt wait for their tires to get warm and lose it in t3 on the first lap =\. I personally dont see the issue of picking and choosing either, with the exception that the TDP can be bashed to hell by one rider saying its not fair that they had to stop riding when another rider got to continue. I think though for the most part an experienced rider will know when they are a danger to themselves or other... in most cases:rolleyes

Still I dont blame the folks that go with a 100% no crash policy and I applaud them for sticking to what they believe, even if it does cause me to use their services only when I have to. I also think that mentality may cater to another crowd of riders, ones who maybe like the idea that everyone is aware if they screw up it might end their day early, even if it is a very minor screw up... in theory I would think it could result in a slightly safer day... in theory. Also i'm sure the guy who crashed x2 that day at thill wishes their was a no crash policy aswell as the other rider he hit in his 2nd crash.

Damn, I am almost convincing myself to start ridding with TDP who have a no crash policy lol:rofl

Ultimately we do have a choice of who we give our money to, to do trackdays. So noone is really forced to abide by any crash policy if they choose to ride with another TDP who doesnt enforce that rule. It is a shame though when an open trackday has a no crash policy, cause damn those days are the best.:thumbup

Safe:ride
 
R6Raff

R6Raff

Control = Speed
You did encourage me to adjust my Sig though, I think I will be donating again here soon, all this blood in my system really dilutes the alcohol some time:laughing
 
NakedRider

NakedRider

Well-known member
Regarding the no crash policy...it's not about YOU. It's about protecting others from YOU after you've crashed. I think it's a great policy.

BTW there are VERY few crashes at a KneeRider trackday. I don't think they've had one for quite some time.

One thing is for sure an open track day is the way to go. Ride until you run out of gas.:)
 
com3

com3

highside surprise!
reedcrr said:
Sounds really good and fun... everything but the definitive "no crash rule". IMHO should be on a case by case basis...
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blah blah blah! we already went through this, robert. i TOTALLY support the no crash rule. :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup
 
Mr.Pink

Mr.Pink

Float
Not hard to just warm up your tires and brain and not crash... I'd rather not ride after a big crash, and if it really is a minor one then pick your bike up and go hide in your pits for a session :D

MY big question is will there be protection against zombies???
 
ap430

ap430

Uniform Speed Racing
I'm soo tempted.... somebody stop me! I'm already doing the weekend with Keigwins...
 
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