Trackday Or Experienced Mc Course???

swerv512

swerv512

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I'm thinking of taking an experienced MC course ( I've already taken the beginners course and i've been riding MY OWN bikes for almost 5 years), but I really want to do a trackday. The money's kind of tight at the moment, so which event would be more beneficial to me???

Thanks for your comment.
 
afm199

afm199

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Any event that offers new rider intensive instruction, Class, ZZ and a Keigiwn school all come to ind.
 
Outta Control

Outta Control

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I never took the New Rider's School from either trackday organizers. But I have experienced and taught the older experienced rider's course that MSF offers and from hind sight I would recommend both if possible. If $$$ is an issue I would recommend the MSF due to its structured nature of evasive and preventive exercises. Yes you don't go over 25 mph but as I always say "technique is more relavent than speed". Just my 0.02 cents :later
 
Deeter

Deeter

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I'm with OC on this one (surprise). Both are great and you will be able to get to both eventually, but I'd definitely start with the ERC. The ERC is cheap and focused on fundamentals -- fundanmentals that you can take with you to a track-school after you recover from the $85 pricetag for the ERC, which shouldn't take that long . . . :thumbup
 
Enchanter

Enchanter

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swerv512 said:
I'm thinking of taking an experienced MC course ( I've already taken the beginners course and i've been riding MY OWN bikes for almost 5 years), but I really want to do a trackday. The money's kind of tight at the moment, so which event would be more beneficial to me???

Thanks for your comment.
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Well, what are your goals? Are you mainly interested in higher speeds and more lean angle? Are you more interested in polishing skills more intune with riding on city streets?

IN an MSF Experienced Rider Course, you will get almost instant coaching/feedback on skills in a very structured environment. On the track, your coaching and feedback will be at 5-20min intervals. Are you interested in practicing accident avoidance skills at speeds that leave a buffer for mistakes?

You mentioned that $ was tight. Well, the MSF ERC is usually $100 (it went up Deeter) and you likely already have the correct gear and the bike is likely ready as well. For a trackday, you are looking at approx. $200 for the day, usually a set of new tires, 10-20gal of gas for the bike, 30-40gal of gas for the truck to transport you and your bike...and it goes up in $ from there. Do you have the correct gear for a trackday? Also factor in the possibility of falling off. It can happen in either place, but a fall in an ERC is a lot less $, and you will still be able to ride the bike in a matter of seconds. At the track, if you fall or go farming....the chance of it costing more $ is high.

Think about what you want to do and what you should do, and find the middle ground.
 
swerv512

swerv512

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Well, what are your goals? Are you mainly interested in higher speeds and more lean angle? Are you more interested in polishing skills more intune with riding on city streets?
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Well put... I want to learn from both experiences. I want MORE SPEED....MORE LEAN ANGLE.... AND MORE STREET SURVIVAL SKILLS!!! MORE, MORE, MORE!!! I guess the question is will I ever have enough skills in either area, and the answer is no (emphatically). So i guess i'll opt for the MSF ERC for now and later the trackday.

I must be getting older (maybe wiser too) because i never thought i'd choose a safety class over a trackday.
 
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Ha_725

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swerv512 said:
Well put... I want to learn from both experiences. I want MORE SPEED....MORE LEAN ANGLE.... AND MORE STREET SURVIVAL SKILLS!!! MORE, MORE, MORE!!! I guess the question is will I ever have enough skills in either area, and the answer is no (emphatically). So i guess i'll opt for the MSF ERC for now and later the trackday.
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same here i guess i'll do the same.....
 
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K-dog

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I still haven't taken the ERC, and I've been riding for ~10 years. I keep saying that because it's been about 13 actually, but I kept losing my license when I was younger. :teeth

Do you ERC, or x-ERC instructors still feel it would be worthwhile? I took the basic rider course when I got my license, and again about 5 years ago, the second go around was a bit boring, but I did feel it helped reinforce a lot of good habits.
 
admar

admar

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I've tried to sign up for a ERC, but I did not get a response from the company putting on the class. I'm up in Marin, so either a North Bay class, or something in the city would be great. Any suggestions, and/or web adresses?

Thanks!
 
Enchanter

Enchanter

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admar said:
I've tried to sign up for a ERC, but I did not get a response from the company putting on the class. I'm up in Marin, so either a North Bay class, or something in the city would be great. Any suggestions, and/or web adresses?

Thanks!
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http://www.sr-mt.com/

They put on classes in Santa Rosa.
 
admar

admar

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Enchanter said:
http://www.sr-mt.com/

They put on classes in Santa Rosa.
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Thanks for the info Enchanter. Unfortunately, just like the last outfit I contacted, they have no advanced rider class scheduled. The reason the other company gave me was that there just wasn't enough interest. Anybody else know of an actual course being offered in the near future in the Bay Area?

Thanks!
 
Outta Control

Outta Control

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K-dog said:
...Do you ERC, or x-ERC instructors still feel it would be worthwhile?...
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All I can tell you is when I taught the older ERC course I remembered a Goldwing and Harley group had a mandate that some of their members take the ERC almost yearly and yet I hear from participants that they have learned more (a refresher) and could honed out their skills much better than doing it themselves.
 
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K-dog

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Outta Control said:
All I can tell you is when I taught the older ERC course I remembered a Goldwing and Harley group had a mandate that some of their members take the ERC almost yearly and yet I hear from participants that they have learned more (a refresher) and could honed out their skills much better than doing it themselves.
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Alright, I'll give that santa rosa place a call and put some pressure on.

you in if it works admar?
 
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