Time to move! (Grass Valley?)

littlebeast

get it while it's easy
we are closing on a property in the area in a few days (southeast of auburn). yeah - insurance is high, but we had no trouble getting it (found a great broker). if you want contact info for him - PM me.
 

Maddevill

KNGKAW
We moved to Shingletown. East of Redding. House prices vary from super cheap to Big bux. Shingletown starts at an altitude of less than 2000 feet all the way up to where I am at around 4300. We do get snow. Land is cheap. Redding has service with United Airlines. We love it up here. Close to Lassen Park and Hat Creek. Lakes, rivers, lots to do.
If you want more information, pm me.

Mad
 

lefty

Well-known member
What a great thread. I'm 58 and I want to retire in a few years. This is of great interest to me.
 

Ride_on

Active member
Gosh is there any land left in and around Grass Valley anymore? It just really seems filled up. Because the lots are bigger, you cant say dense but the traffic sure is dense. I hate the heat up thar in the summer. There are large areas of very hot zones on rusty red soil that just ain't that attractive. I love to visit Nevada City but it's probably out of reach. Tons of Bay Area peeps up there.

I wouldn't live in Cloverdale if you paid me. You see, I did live in Cloverdale in the 70s. Nothing but bad memories. There were Satanists up at the Preston place, Florida hippies in those days. But, its way better since freeway bypass I would imagine. Everyone I knew from there moved away, that's how great it was. Some very troubled young people up there when I was around. It's almost like a little piece of Lake County but prettier. I'd rather live with the hippies in Forestville or something than that noise. Healdsburg got ruined by the wealthy. It was a sleepy Mexican town when I was little, with the bigger farm and ranch owners on the outskirts. The Aven theater only showed movies in Spanish! :afm199:afm199:afm199 If you don't commute, Hopland might be interesting, I dunno. Still too damn hot. A person might be able to get something in Geyserville? Freeway noise but it's kind of cool location wise.

Back south, they took the feedstore in Alexander Valley and made it into a high price sandwich shop. We used to buy hay, and get sodas from the cooler. Now, the Alexander Valley is like the frickin south of France. Anything within two hours of SFO is pretty much out of reach price-wise to retire to...Pretty sad.

Probably the only hope of it ever being affordable is that all of it is in danger of getting incinerated every year or we lose our Tech Hub thing.

I am laughing of course. Do what you want...

Curious to your opinion of Potter Valley???
 

Bay Arean

Well-known member
Curious to your opinion of Potter Valley???

Potter Valley has a mixture of old families, new pot-grower families and both old and new wine growers, Mexican laborers and even Ukiah suburbanites. Because of the irrigation district, it has a leg up on most high Norcal valleys because of all that can be grown there. it's pretty unique in this way I know a lot people there and I certainly like it better than Cloverdale of 40 years ago (!), but I think the legacy of having 101 run right through it (Cloverdale) kind of set some attributes up making it different than the relatively obscure location of Potter.. There is some sense of community and coming together I think, especially regarding the annual rodeo, parade etc etc. There are various levels of tensions and disputes involving the three main kinds of people mentioned above.

The community is absolutely threatened by the dam busting initiatives of Big Green, native groups and politicians. If they get their way and blow up the Van Arsdale dam, which dates back to 1912, many families legacy businesses and properties and even new fortunes will be devastated. Not only will the irrigation water be cut off which is on a system of ditches but the recharging of the water table will be affected, meaning many family house wells might go dry or dry up in the summer. Anyone who thinks I am overstating it, just hasn't thought it through.

I know whatever our family has, which includes three parcels will be greatly devalued.

I think it's very risky to buy property there right now until this is resolved.

Since legalization, there has been some changes in terms of who is around but I haven't seen the complete impact yet because I'm not there enough. Supposedly some of the biggest growers gave up to go for indoor operations but I dunno for sure. Still plenty around and this attracts various types of trimmigrants and other peripheral characters. For the last decade at least, it got pretty expensive to buy land up there, and I don't know whether legalization will actually depress property prices because plenty of people will buy in for jobs in Ukiah.

To retire? It's hot as hell in the summer though you have a river nearby and even a big creek to find. Lotsa fish-stocking so you can do that in geezer years. It also has sweeping winds on the valley floor that can cool things, or drive fires. Like I said, with high water table, you can landscape and farm your way into a nice place. Ukiah has all the amenities you'd need. They certainly have had their share of fires though. Motorcyclists surely like to buzz through on their way up to Pillsbury and beyond so if you are into dirt-biking I think you'd like that aspect. The forest area over the hill is pretty wild, too because there are no main roads going through there.

It's pretty much a second home to me and at times, I think its pretty nice. I wouldn't choose to retire because I have never wanted to live on a flat valley floor, but there are hills ringing the place but once again, which are prime fire hazards. Personally, I'd want to get farther north and more into the redwoods for retiring but you lose a lot of amenities regarding hospitals, stores, etc all the way until Fortuna, really. I dunno. I think about it just to be around my family,when I don't have to be here anymore for work.

That is one place I'd definitely want to rent for a while before committing to. But that's probably true of all of our places we discuss. When I imagine living there in just a house with a little bit of acreage, I kind of like the first few places on the left as you go into the valley, before the West road. I often look at the sale signs to see what's up there.
 
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Maddevill

KNGKAW
It's always a lot higher in the areas that are less populated.

Politics is mainly all about the urban areas versus the rural areas.

-Don- Reno, NV

Shingletown has a lot of MAGAs and State of Jefferson types. Just don't talk politics or religion and people look out for each other up here. In fact I just bought a cord of wood from my Trumper neighbor. He even stacked it in the shed for us.

Mad
 

DonTom

Well-known member
Shingletown has a lot of MAGAs and State of Jefferson types. Just don't talk politics or religion and people look out for each other up here. In fact I just bought a cord of wood from my Trumper neighbor. He even stacked it in the shed for us.

Mad
Yeah, in some areas of CA, it's those from the SF Bay area versus those who lived in the rural area for a long time. Best to not talk politics with perhaps most people when out of the area you're from. At least until you know them well.

-Don- Reno, NV
 

rtmac

Hondaholic
Best to not talk politics with perhaps most people when out of the area you're from. At least until you know them well.

We are VERY private, keep-to-ourselves people. Even living in Walnut Creek all these years, my wife and I have pretty much no social life (mostly by choice).
I don't talk politics, or really anything, with anyone other than family. I'm certainly not the kind of person to strike up a conversation with a stranger. People have been telling us for years that we seem the type that would enjoy the solitude of living in the mountains... but I've never lived anywhere else. As my brother (who's very social) say's about us, "you don't participate in most of the things that make the Bay Area so expensive, so why stay and subject yourselves to all the negatives?"
 

DonTom

Well-known member
We are VERY private, keep-to-ourselves people. Even living in Walnut Creek all these years, my wife and I have pretty much no social life (mostly by choice).
I don't talk politics, or really anything, with anyone other than family. I'm certainly not the kind of person to strike up a conversation with a stranger. People have been telling us for years that we seem the type that would enjoy the solitude of living in the mountains... but I've never lived anywhere else. As my brother (who's very social) say's about us, "you don't participate in most of the things that make the Bay Area so expensive, so why stay and subject yourselves to all the negatives?"
I am more of the opposite, not private at all unless I need to be for a good reason. But I have been widowed for a few years, now all alone, so I enjoy talking to others.

I don't get pissed off at people with different political views from my own, but I realize some people do. I can get in a very hot debate and then treat the person out for lunch. In fact, I enjoy the debates and I have friends that are RWNJs as well as lefties. I consider myself moderate as most issues have a negative and positive side. That also means the lefties see me as a RWNJ and the more conservative people see me as a lefty.

I also think I could hack living in the mountains, as long as I have a way to communicate with others. Between this computer and my ham radio stuff, I can pretty much live anywhere, but I don't care for large cities (LA, SF, etc) . That is the only thing I try to avoid. Reno isn't all that large and is fairly easy to move around in, except for the snow we have here now!

-Don- Reno, NV
 

DonTom

Well-known member
Yep! Thanks for that. The average today are the people on either extreme!

Here are the lyrics:

"The people in this city call me country
Because of how I walk and talk and smile
Well, I don't mind them laughing in the city
But the country folks all say I'm citified

The fighting men they say that I'm a coward
Because I never push no one around
Gentle people call me trouble maker
'Cause I'll always fight and stand my ground

Funny I don't fit
Where have all the average people gone?

Some pious people point and call me sinner
Because to them I've never seen the lights
Other folks think of me as a preacher
I'm just doing what I think is right

The wealthy people think that I am a hobo
Lean and hungry, writing mournful songs
And the poor, poor people think I am a rich man
But really, I'm just trying to get along

Yes, it's funny I don't fit
Tell me where have all the average people gone?

And the government has given me a number
To simplify my birth and life and death
And still my woman thinks I'm awful important
Like the moon and the sun and the sea and the sky and breath

Yes, it's funny I don't fit
Where have all the average people gone?
Funny I don't fit
Where have all the average people gone?"
 

DonTom

Well-known member
Just a bit out of my price range.
If you have 800K$ cash to spend, not much is out of your price range, especially if you will consider financing. 800K$ will make a down payment on house price of four million bucks, if you can handle the monthly payments.

BTW, you will find buying a house is a real hassle, even when you pay cash, thanks to the Patriot Act.

When they are done with you, they will know more about your financial situation then you ever did!

And any money that was given or even loaned to you in advance (or found on the street , or whatever) will not be able to be used to buy the home. The BS gets VERY deep. Ask me how I know.

But selling a house will normally go smoothly and that money can all be used.

Any deposits into you bank account for the last six months they will ask you about. If they find anything questionable (in a million possible ways) you will NOT be able to use that money to buy a house. But you can still use that same money to buy a few more motorcycles . . . . . .

Notice my increase of motorcycles after 2016 . . . When I bought my house in Auburn, CA!

-Don- Reno, NV
 
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lizard

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. . . . . .

Notice my increase of motorcycles after 2016 . . . When I bought my house in Auburn, CA!

-Don- Reno, NV

Do you still own all those bikes? Curious because my current fleet should probably be culled.
 

Maddevill

KNGKAW
We are VERY private, keep-to-ourselves people. Even living in Walnut Creek all these years, my wife and I have pretty much no social life (mostly by choice).
I don't talk politics, or really anything, with anyone other than family. I'm certainly not the kind of person to strike up a conversation with a stranger. People have been telling us for years that we seem the type that would enjoy the solitude of living in the mountains... but I've never lived anywhere else. As my brother (who's very social) say's about us, "you don't participate in most of the things that make the Bay Area so expensive, so why stay and subject yourselves to all the negatives?"

That's what I like about where we are. Everyone is on an acre or more. I can see my neighbors house but he's pretty away from us. We still have our privacy while also living in a neighborhood. There's all different kinds of neighborhoods here too. Regular track style, us ( large lots, unpaved roads etc) and the truly remote. It's a good mix.

Mad
 

DonTom

Well-known member
Do you still own all those bikes? Curious because my current fleet should probably be culled.
Yes, and they all run like new (or a lot better than new, such as my 1971 BMW R75/5 as it has several performance mods).

I think it was this forum where somebody posted a formula for how many motorcycles we should own. It is "N +1", where "N" is the number of bikes we currently own.
 

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SM610

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That area is intolerable for any number of reasons. STAY AWAY FROM HERE... I mean THERE!

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