They Make Patients Die Alone, And We Let Them

bojangle

bojangle

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CABilly said:
There are plenty of reasons. My facility has I think 5 different N95 masks for different size faces. Some take almost an hour for the fit testing. Even a very short beard can negate the mask. People don't know how to properly don and doff PPE, and we don't quite have the staffing to babysit people and show them how.

In the grand scheme of things, it's PROBABLY OK for most people. But is it just "as safe as a hospital worker?" The answer is no.
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Yup, this. ^^^
 
norcalkid

norcalkid

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CABilly said:
There are plenty of reasons. My facility has I think 5 different N95 masks for different size faces. Some take almost an hour for the fit testing. Even a very short beard can negate the mask. People don't know how to properly don and doff PPE, and we don't quite have the staffing to babysit people and show them how.

In the grand scheme of things, it's PROBABLY OK for most people. But is it just "as safe as a hospital worker?" The answer is no.
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I totally agree here. We have to get fit tested for N95's and not everybody can use one, myself included. I have to wear and be trained on a PAPer and get retrained yearly.

There is also the issue of just not having enough extra PPE to be passing it out.

I'm sure there is also a liability issue of allowing someone untrained to get exposed.




EDIT: My hospital would allow a non isolation pt to have a guest with them (screened for symptoms and fever). COVID pt no guests for everybody's safety.
 
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Johndicezx9

Johndicezx9

Rolls with it...
No politics, just poignance...

One of the Photos of the Year

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budman

budman

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A horror of this virus.

I was just thinking about coming back to this thread to say this was weighing on my mind. Kind of a “what are you thinking” thing if you are familiar with the thread... and bam. There is that pic. :cry

If ya sit and think how many are sitting in ICU beds right now ..... deep fucking breath. :(

Go Med teams. :port

They rock so hard
 
Johndicezx9

Johndicezx9

Rolls with it...
The gut punch of the photo is the glimpse of the patient's hand around the back of the hazmat suit; receiving, reciprocating, the desperate need for connection in what may be an EOL moment.

Tough stuff captured in a fraction of a second.
 
Climber

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Johndicezx9 said:
The gut punch of the photo is the glimpse of the patient's hand around the back of the hazmat suit; receiving, reciprocating, the desperate need for connection in what may be an EOL moment.

Tough stuff captured in a fraction of a second.
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Yeah, some pictures capture the moment in a way that was never anticipated and only become apparent with examination.

Most photographer's who take these pictures may have seen some aspects, but you take 1000's of pictures and occasionally get lucky with all of the additional content that you couldn't have seen at the moment.
 
PorradaVFR

PorradaVFR

The Temptations of Christ
I was there when my Dad died and the preceding few days in hospice at his home. I treasure that time as we got to say our goodbyes, he got to see our first son and I totally understand the absolute horror of NOT being able to see your loved one.

I also understand that PPE is limited and medical staff MUST have it. I also understand that in this nightmare of a pandemic creating more cases is foolhardy and exposing others to risk is preventable if not at all desirable. It’s a hell of a conundrum with no easy answers. Would I want to see my loved one? Absolutely. Could I accept that was not able to...over time, but not easily and not comfortably - but would I understand? Yes. Just as I’ve been trained that the first consideration as a first responder is to NOT create more victims.

We all want closure and a dignified exit and the only way to facilitate that is to adopt prevention measures and get past the spike. The folks out gathering with not a care in the world are the problem, not the medical staff preventing access to the ICU ward or those making that policy.

I ache for those nurses and doctors carrying the consequences of this mess, their compassion is inspiring and humbling.
 
Climber

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PorradaVFR said:
I ache for those nurses and doctors carrying the consequences of this mess, their compassion is inspiring and humbling.
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Absolutely!

They are the true hero's during this pandemic, and many have died as a result of the care they have provided.

If there was any decency in our government, their families would be well taken care of, to honor their actions. Sadly, it seems that only lip service has been paid to them.
 
Yakoo752

Yakoo752

USN
Climber said:
Absolutely!

They are the true hero's during this pandemic, and many have died as a result of the care they have provided.

If there was any decency in our government, their families would be well taken care of, to honor their actions. Sadly, it seems that only lip service has been paid to them.
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Maybe we can tie yellow bows around trees as our support for them...
 
Climber

Climber

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Yakoo752 said:
Maybe we can tie yellow bows around trees as our support for them...
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All of the $Trillions spent much of it for companies that didn't need it, and yet how much was spent on the front line healthcare workers for what they've been doing?
 
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