Sweden took a relatively unique approach to Covid and I feared the worst...
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Yakoo752
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Published Tuesday, March 17 at 12:56 p.m
EDIT: but like I said above, the government leadership is simply being more outspoken and are encouraging the population to be more careful and to do the right thing. They have a law teed up that will likely pass and go in effect in March when, it appears, the current law expires.
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GAJ
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Sorry about that.
Same source from today:
Article on the ICU situation there that you mentioned was hitting a critical stage.
https://www.thelocal.se/20201209/stockholms-icu-units-reach-99-percent-capacity
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Johndicezx9
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Looks like the King of Sweden is needin' to do some venting...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-55347021
In SwedeSpeak that's a damning statement.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-55347021
In SwedeSpeak that's a damning statement.
GAJ
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On another forum, (that is about A/V gear), that Sweden news has had no impact on the deniers insisting we should of course go back to business as usual as it would make no difference and that restrictions/masking/distancing are some kind of power/control thing.
It is so odd that it doesn't matter how high the numbers go or how full the ICUs get that there is a large section of the population that simply don't buy the number or the ICU reports.
A bit disturbing and illogical but we do have at least one person here on BARF advocating the same ideas.
Johndicezx9
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Just one?
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California has been among the most restrictive and focused on beating Covid and yet, it's almost the worst state in terms of deaths (lately).
I don't believe it's possible to avoid catching pandemic level infections at this point aside from vaccinations. Masks are feel good and 6 feet should be 12 feet. 6 feet is the distance we've been using since the inception of the space program.
I suspect that's a large part too Matt. What we've learned (or rather, knew) is that policy is not law and law will be deemed unconstitutional and people are only gonna do so much to save themselves/ others.
In the end, my conclusion is there isn't much way we can change the infection rates increasing/ decreasing with the calendar. We probably have the best we can, right now in regards to people following (their own) safety protocols.
More people are going to die, but much less than would be the case without any protections. IMO and from what we're seeing.
In the end, my conclusion is there isn't much way we can change the infection rates increasing/ decreasing with the calendar. We probably have the best we can, right now in regards to people following (their own) safety protocols.
More people are going to die, but much less than would be the case without any protections. IMO and from what we're seeing.
They're not even laws though. The whole things is bizarro in how it's been managed, but at the same time this is a first for us in this century.
1/3 of all covid deaths are at Long-term Care Facilities. If we can't control things in that type of controlled environment, I don't expect we'll do better outside those facilities. I expect deaths in this pandemic and that we can't have a great effect controlling the deaths over the long term and yet, given what could be I'm not highly critical of the job States have done.
1/3 of all covid deaths are at Long-term Care Facilities. If we can't control things in that type of controlled environment, I don't expect we'll do better outside those facilities. I expect deaths in this pandemic and that we can't have a great effect controlling the deaths over the long term and yet, given what could be I'm not highly critical of the job States have done.
Because some people have some common sense and will abide and that helps.
They are enforceable to some degree.
The hospital capacity is low. No -emergency medical procedures are going to stall.
Stupid is thinking we should shine it. Stupid is thinking collectively we don’t do it because many do.
GAJ
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GAJ
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Half a cake is better than no cake and ICUs in the Bay Area are doing far better than areas where people flaunt the restrictions the most.
over 35% of CV-19 deaths are @ long term care facilities. A facility that is able to control all facets of health and lives, yet they're still over 100K deaths.
There is no way to have a better result than what we're currently dealing with. It's sad, but that we don't have millions dead is something no one is appreciating. I've been told by all my medical friends that there is little way to control the fact that absent a vaccine, we're all getting CV-19 since the pandemic broke. They haven't changed that assessment.