Sweden took a relatively unique approach to Covid and I feared the worst...

Holeshot

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Belgian officials say they are counting in a way that no other country in the world is currently doing: counting deaths in hospitals and care homes, but including deaths in care homes that are suspected, not confirmed, as Covid-19 cases. For example: if you have one or two confirmed cases, then the week after you have 10 deaths in the same home based on similar symptoms.

Interesting point on countries counting deaths differently.
 

Holeshot

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Given the opportunity half of motorcyclist from what I can find will ride without helmets so the "it won't happen to me" idea is prevalent.

The majority of the car driving world believes we're the same in regards to risk as those who don't wear gear, etc. IOW, motorcyclists are risk takers.
 

bojangle

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Sweden: 65.6 per 100k population
US: 81.9 per 100k population

16.3 person difference.

Belgium is crazy at 145.7

Belgian officials say they are counting in a way that no other country in the world is currently doing: counting deaths in hospitals and care homes, but including deaths in care homes that are suspected, not confirmed, as Covid-19 cases. For example: if you have one or two confirmed cases, then the week after you have 10 deaths in the same home based on similar symptoms.

Given everything I know about covid and the accuracy of testing, I believe Belgium is doing it correctly.

Of course, the detractors will only use that as "evidence" of cooking the books, so to speak.
 

dagle

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looks like the weird death curve data in sweden was actually because of the lag time in reporting from their methodology determining cause of death. oddly enough, it looks like john hopkins took over on google results as the data source which makes it look even spottier than previously.

does anyone know if they actually locked down or was that just a proposition? i couldn't find anything suggesting they imposed a lockdown.
 

dagle

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thats what i thought too but GAJ said sweden finally locked down... maybe my english isn't as sharp as it used to be.
 
thats what i thought too but GAJ said sweden finally locked down... maybe my english isn't as sharp as it used to be.

nah, exact same rules that came out in March. Their PM has been more outspoken and encouraging people to do the needful.

Reason, their PM does not have the authority to lock down nor does their health agency. It has to become a proposition and go through the process as any other law on their books. (I'm uncertain their process to actually create a law so I am being intentionally vague here)

Here is the good ol' USA, health orders are considered lawful.
 

GAJ

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thats what i thought too but GAJ said sweden finally locked down... maybe my english isn't as sharp as it used to be.

From the link.

Now the country is embracing many of the restrictions long implemented by its neighbors.

Last month, gatherings of more than eight people were banned.

On Monday, high schools closed and the sale of alcohol was banned in bars, restaurants and clubs after 10 p.m.

And soon they may close schools.

Upper secondary schools, universities and other adult education programs have been asked to switch to remote learning to slow the spread of the virus.

But while children under the age of 16 continue to go to school as normal for the moment, Ekström told Radio Sweden that could change if needed.

The Education Minister explained that legislation is being prepared in order to provide help for people working in important public services should distance learning be expanded to all age groups.

https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/7431321
 
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