Rush Limbaugh...dead

tzrider

Write Only User
Staff member
You know I respect you so I am asking honestly, what's your point or end game? Just to convince us asking repeatedly answered questions from a know proudly-ignorant individual with a pattern of shit posting is A-OK and we shouldn't be so mean?

Just curious.

I'm trying to be transparent about my point, which is that we don't really know Desi's motives. All we know is his behavior.

A lot of the polarization we see in the nation originates from the same kind of dynamic, where people attribute extreme viewpoints to each other based on comments or questions that aren't nearly that defined. It's rampant here and has actually driven the site owner out of this very forum.

If you find a behavior irritating, sure address that. LMGTFY, or some such. To equate asking the questions he did to a defense of Rush is a bit of a stretch and induces a motive that may not be present.

I am aware of Desi's posting history and that he has expressed positions that are bigoted. It's not impossible that he knows perfectly well who Rush Limbaugh was and totally agreed with that screed. Neither of us knows that, however. I know other individuals in real life that would ask similar questions, not meaning any harm, so I try to err on the side of responding to what really happened, rather than making up a motive for them.
 

Enchanter

Ghost in The Machine
Staff member
I'm trying to be transparent about my point, which is that we don't really know Desi's motives. All we know is his behavior.

A lot of the polarization we see in the nation originates from the same kind of dynamic, where people attribute extreme viewpoints to each other based on comments or questions that aren't nearly that defined. It's rampant here and has actually driven the site owner out of this very forum.

If you find a behavior irritating, sure address that. LMGTFY, or some such. To equate asking the questions he did to a defense of Rush is a bit of a stretch and induces a motive that may not be present.

I am aware of Desi's posting history and that he has expressed positions that are bigoted. It's not impossible that he knows perfectly well who Rush Limbaugh was and totally agreed with that screed. Neither of us knows that, however. I know other individuals in real life that would ask similar questions, not meaning any harm, so I try to err on the side of responding to what really happened, rather than making up a motive for them.

Brilliant post.
 

TylerW

Agitator
Fundamentally disagree. Your statemetn seems to assume that 100% participation is required in the social contract, which is untrue. There is probably no path forward on this disagreement as it appears to be fundamental. Neutral positions are not conflict positions.

Everything you post tells me that you're blasely tolerant, if not in approval of status quo power structures.

You proved my point without intending to.

But let's put this in a statement you're more familiar with: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke

Elie Wiesel just said it in a way you're less comfortable with.
 
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Dubermun

Well-known member
what the fuck is wrong with drinking Koolaid? Cant do anything without getting shamed these days.
 

Eldritch

is insensitive
Everything you post tells me that you're blasely tolerant, if not in approval of status quo power structures.

You proved my point without intending to.

But let's put this in a statement you're more familiar with: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke

Elie Wiesel just said it in a way you're less comfortable with.

Yes, of course I am. What on earth is wrong with status quo power structures? All in all, things are pretty good in America and they work pretty well. It is why people keep coming here and foreign nations keep investing here. :dunno

The Wiesel quote isn't relevant there however. Taking on some absurd crusade to combat every perceived evil in the world is a Quixotic rabbit hole from which there is no end but self destruction. Simply because one person or group perceives an evil does not make it so, and even if said evil were to exist, it is not necessarily one of significant enough impact to motivate your supposed, "good men," to action.

If the Good Man in Nebraska reads that there is a serial killer active in Miami, he is not the failure of good men to act, because he does not get on a plane to go join the Neighborhood Watch down there to help stop the culprit. It has no impact on him, it is far too impractical for him to take action, so why on earth would he waste energy or effort over the issue. You read it, say, "that is unfortunate," shrug and move on.

Each of the Good Men must calmly observe, analyze, and choose carefully their battles to maximize the return on their effort to affect the change they want. Wasting concern on the battles you choose not to get involved in is just that, a waste. :dunno

That's another classic. "Sure you may have a point but why be mean?"

Maybe he deserved civility the first few times. Maybe.

Well, again, the level you lower yourself to in the treatment of others does not define them, it only defines you. :dunno
 
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mrzuzzo

Well-known member
Seems you haven’t been paying attention. Civility is going nowhere with this one. Ignoring is the only practical response.

Yeah exactly. Just don't participate in the discussion or put the person on the block list. Not that hard.

Also, the last few pages of this thread deliver. :laughing
 

Eldritch

is insensitive
You're still agreeing with me while presenting it as an argument against what I said. :laughing

Not exactly, the exception I took to the quote from Wiesel is pretty clear. :dunno

I like Capitalist Democratic systems, I think they work best, and am very happy to continue them as the existing status quo power structures. :dunno

Seems you haven’t been paying attention. Civility is going nowhere with this one. Ignoring is the only practical response.

In all my years and all my posts on BARF, only 9 cats have ever made it to my ignore list. All of them were people who decided to regularly cross lines into regular personal attacks against me and one guy I found myself trying to bait to come to a meet so I could kick his ass for a lot of personal attacks on my friends here on the board.

I believe we are a community first and try not to ignore someone just because they believe differently than me or have a different style, even if it means some butthurt arguments hapen now and again.
 
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Johndicezx9

Rolls with it...
I read his "ignore" not so much as the technological function of the board, but the choice to not respond as responses feed the attention beasts.
 

Blankpage

alien
Yeah just read without taking the bait. Dude is out to press buttons. His stuff is too unfiltered to be taken seriously. Its as much entertainment as it is offensive.
 

Blankpage

alien
Maybe, not sure, Im not in the habit of reporting posts or reading the rules. All of us can be annoying at times whether we mean to be or not, I try not to take any of it too seriously.
 

wazzuFreddo

WuTang is 4 the children
Maybe, not sure, Im not in the habit of reporting posts or reading the rules. All of us can be annoying at times whether we mean to be or not, I try not to take any of it too seriously.

I reported my own post once. :laughing

Someone accused me of trolling so I told them “I’ll hit the report post button and we will find out if I’m trolling or not.” :p
 

Eldritch

is insensitive
I try not to take any of it too seriously.

:thumbup

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