Pismo / Oceano Dunes under pressure again. July 11th showdown?

budman

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Item 12 on the agenda.. meeting info

Specific info here

The above document shows intentions to place more restrictions of use due to previous restrictions on areas to ride/drive and take away for exemptions for Holidays. No fun on 4th of July, Memorials day... and :facepalm

More info to follow. Thanks to the AMA for the heads up.
 
Butch

Butch

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The California Coastal Commission is a state agency in the U.S. state of California with quasi-judicial regulatory oversight over land use and public access in the California coastal zone.

More later. Meetng July 11, methinks.
 
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Butch

Butch

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Per Brewster
The meeting finally ended. The Commission voted 8-2 in favor of giving OHMVR an additional year to produce a draft PWP (public works plan). No closure for at least a year! OHMVR has got to get things done.
My observation: There were very few comments on the actual Staff Recommendations by the public. A common topic during the first rounds of comments was NO input gathered from the local community or local governments.

Ride on
Brewster
Your CORVA guy

https://www.southbayriders.com/forums/threads/160682/page-2
 
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elemetal

3 pings and a zing
There were very few comments on the actual Staff Recommendations by the public. A common topic during the first rounds of comments was NO input gathered from the local community or local governments.
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That says quite a bit about the OHV community....if you don't speak out they will roll over you.
 
Butch

Butch

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Staff member
Pismo OHMVR Commissioners Meeting

Upcoming meeting

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation (OHMVR) Commission, pursuant to authority contained in Section 5090.24 of the Public Resources Code and Section 11120 et seq. of the Government Code, will conduct a tour on November 7, 2019, and meet on November 8, 2019 according to the following schedule.
OHMVR Commission Tour: Thursday, November 7, 2019
8:00 a.m. – Oceano Dunes District
Tour Information: The tour is open to the public and will begin at 8:00 a.m. on Thursday, November 7, 2019, at the dirt parking lot adjacent to Fin’s Seafood & Sports Bar located at 105-1 West Grand Avenue, Grover Beach, California 93433. The tour group will stop at various locations within the Oceano Dunes District and will last approximately 7 to 8 hours. Tour participants are responsible for their own food and water supplies, and should wear layered clothing, sturdy footwear and hats and bring sunscreen.
Seats in State vehicles will not be available on this tour. If you wish to tackle the tour in your own vehicle, a high clearance 4x4 vehicle capable of traveling on soft sand and dunes is recommended. Participants should also have experience driving in this environment. The Division will not be available to extricate stuck vehicles. Vehicles must display whips and flags in accordance with California Code of Regulations Title 14, Division 3, Chapter 6, Section 4609(a)(3). Vehicles without whips and flags will not be permitted on the tour.
Following the conclusion of the tour, OHMVR Commission members may leave for a recreational ride. No business will be discussed and the public is invited to attend.
OHMVR Commission Meeting: Friday, November 8, 2019 8:30 a.m. – until adjournment
SpringHill Suites by Marriott Paso Robles 900 El Camino Real
Atascadero, CA 93422

NOTICE IS ALSO HEREBY GIVEN that the agenda for the Commission is posted at www.ohv.parks.ca.gov. If individuals are unable to obtain information through this source, please contact the OHMVR Division at (916) 324-4442. Referenced materials may undergo modification and will be available to the public as changes are made.
Meeting facilities are accessible to people with disabilities. If you need specific accommodations, please call the OHMVR Division at (916) 324-4442.
NOTICE IS GIVEN that any person may file a written statement on the proposed actions by writing to the OHMVR Commission or may present written statements at the meeting on November 8, 2019. Any person handing out written materials to the OHMVR Commission shall provide the Recording Secretary with
fourteen (14) copies. Members of the public presenting visual aids (projected media) as part of their public comments to the Commission are requested to submit the material(s) to the OHMVR Commission five (5) days prior to the scheduled meeting. The OHMVR Commission and the OHMVR Division reserve the right to decline to show photographs that violate personal privacy (photos without a release from the person/people shown in the photograph) or other valid reason in the opinion of the Division and its legal counsel. Inquiries may be directed to the OHMVR Division at 1725 23rd Street, Suite 200, Sacramento, California 95816 or (916) 324-4442.
NOTICE IS ALSO GIVEN that the Commission meeting will be live webcast with archived video provided post-meeting at www.cal-span.org.
Brian E. Robertson, Division Chief
California State Parks
Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation Division
OHMVR Commission Tour and Meeting Notice (November 7-8, 2019) 2
 
buellistic

buellistic

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Butch said:
Upcoming meeting
Tour Information: The tour is open to the public and will begin at 8:00 a.m. on Thursday, November 7, 2019, at the dirt parking lot adjacent to Fin’s Seafood & Sports Bar located at 105-1 West Grand Avenue, Grover Beach, California 93433. The tour group will stop at various locations within the Oceano Dunes District and will last approximately 7 to 8 hours. Tour participants are responsible for their own food and water supplies, and should wear layered clothing, sturdy footwear and hats and bring sunscreen.
Seats in State vehicles will not be available on this tour. If you wish to tackle the tour in your own vehicle, a high clearance 4x4 vehicle capable of traveling on soft sand and dunes is recommended. Participants should also have experience driving in this environment. The Division will not be available to extricate stuck vehicles. Vehicles must display whips tow chains and flags in accordance with California Code of Regulations Title 14, Division 3, Chapter 6, Section 4609(a)(3). Vehicles without whips and chains will not be permitted on the tour.
Following the conclusion of the tour, OHMVR Commission members may leave for a recreational ride. No business will be discussed and the public is invited to attend.
(November 7-8, 2019) 2
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So!..I have to have a jacked up 4x4 with sand tires. a flag. cooler of beer and a killer stereo
And whips?
To take the Tour?
 
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Butch

Butch

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buellistic said:
So!..I have to have a jacked up 4x4 with sand tires. a flag. cooler of beer and a killer stereo
And whips?
To take the Tour?
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Nah, just air down and keep up your speed.
Thought it does say whips and chains are required by law. Chaps would be optional.

And flags. I wonder if a confederate flag is acceptable. Or French.
 
Butch

Butch

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The California Department of Parks and Recreation will hold two public meetings in December to discuss the Public Works Plan for Pismo State Beach and Oceano Dunes State Vehicular Recreation Area (SVRA). The meetings will be held in Arroyo Grande and Bakersfield – details are listed below.
At these meetings, the planning team will present the Public Works Plan Options as well as preferred concepts for the Butterfly Grove Public Access Project, the Pismo State Beach Boardwalk Project, and the Oso Flaco Improvement Project.
The meetings will consist of a brief presentation and an open house, during which attendees will have the opportunity to visit topic stations, view materials, and speak with the planning team. The meetings will be identical in content and format, and meeting materials will be available after the meetings are concluded on the project website at www.oceanodunespwp.com.
Meeting #1
Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2019
Time: 5:30-7:30 pm. Brief presentation to be delivered twice, at 5:30 and 6:30 pm.
Location: South County Regional Center, 800 West Branch St., Arroyo Grande, CA 93420
Meeting #2
Date: Wednesday, December 11, 2019
Time: 5:30-7:30 pm. Brief presentation to be delivered twice, at 5:30 and 6:30 pm.
Location: Bakersfield Marriott at the Convention Center, 801 Truxtun Ave., Bakersfield, CA 93301

Meeting facilities are accessible to people with disabilities. If you need specific accommodations, please contact Katie Metraux at (916) 708-3485. A Spanish interpreter will also be available at the meetings.
We hope to see you there!
Thank you,
The PWP Planning Team
 
Butch

Butch

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CORVA’s Amy Granat:
OCEANO DUNES, A TALE OF TWO PARKS
Amy Granat, Managing Director
Oceano Dunes has been an iconic symbol of freedom for the off-road community. Motorized vehicles have traveled the dunes since the early 1900’s, and there was no reason to think that one day we would be fighting against the potential of a complete closure of our park.
As a country we value and celebrate our symbols of freedom, and it is certainly no different for off-roaders. We feel the attacks on Oceano Dunes to the very depth of our souls, because this park represents our past and our future; remembrances of past outings with family and friends as well as anticipation of new memories to be made with children and grandchildren.
Off-road recreation started very early at Pismo Beach, as it was known before the area became
a state park. Early photographs have been found placing motorized recreation on the beach and in the dunes back to 1905. Every form of travel from horse and buggy, Model T, to early sand buggies have been documented in the dunes, making Pismo Beach perhaps the most egalitarian off-road area in California.
The Off-Highway Vehicle Motorized Recreation Division (OHMVR) of State Parks assumed management of the area after purchasing the park, and Oceano Dunes was viewed as the jewel in the crown for the division. As a community we only have 9 State Vehicular Recreation Areas, or SVRA’s, scattered around the state to call our own, as opposed to 271 additional parks in the system that do not allow off- highway vehicle use. While each one of these SVRA’s
is important to the off-road community, nothing can compare to the experience at Oceano Dunes, our ‘symbol of freedom’.
But the past few years have brought unwelcome and undesirable changes to the park that have negatively affected the off-road experience and made it a very different park. There are many reasons behind the deterioration of the park and many areas to lay
blame: changes by the state in management due to reorganization of State Parks, upgrades in available vehicle technology, and the loss of camaraderie
that used to exist between members of the off-road community. Family recreation has always been at the forefront of off-road recreation and Oceano Dunes has
represented a family destination for many, especially in the Central Valley.
Perhaps each one of these problems could have been dealt with in an efficient manner one by one,
but as they have coalesced at the same time, they represent a hurdle that the off-road community
must work together to overcome. Without effective management and law enforcement by State Parks, lack of oversight has wreaked havoc on the orderly travel of vehicles in the park. Until recently, SVRA’s were managed by the people who knew and understand off-road recreation best – the Off Highway Motorized Vehicle Recreation Division. But during the past few years, those management duties were taken away from this division and given to people who have no experience managing SVRA’s. As odd and impractical as this sounds as a management practice, is exactly how badly it has turned out in reality. Oceano Dunes has suffered under this (lack of) management style, without permanent supervisory personnel coupled with insufficient law enforcement patrols. It is hard to explain how much this new state park paradigm has hurt Oceano Dunes.
Equally impactful, however, has been the influx in the marketplace of new and powerful machines that are being sold to drivers and riders with little knowledge and even less experience riding off-road vehicles in the dunes. The proliferation of available credit to purchase these machines means enthusiasts no longer need
to spend time building their buggies and learning to drive the dunes in a safe manner. Although all visitors to the park are given rules and regulations to follow while operating in the park, this is difficult to enforce without onsite rangers willing to hand out tickets when necessary.
With all the other politically motivated attacks raging against Oceano Dunes, it is difficult for enthusiasts
to muster the wherewithal to bring back order in the park. But that is exactly what needs to happen, and the community must work together to make the needed changes...
 
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Butch

Butch

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... There can be no better stewards of the park than Friends of Oceano Dunes, who have been tirelessly battling the political and legal battles against the SVRA for many years. When speaking with Jim Suty, President of Friends of Oceano Dunes, and his wife, Karen. I asked them for advice they wanted to relay to the community as it relates to the enthusiast’s experi- ence. They stated; “We long for the days of family recreation to be restored. The lawlessness and wild west attitude, need to change. The OHV community needs to take ownership of our parks, to get involved in organizations, and we need State Parks to reinvigo- rate the educational outreach at Oceano with double the current number of Park Rangers.”
CORVA agrees whole heartedly with the statement above. Our community, our off-road community, must
take ownership of the park to bring back the ‘jewel in the crown’. We have fought hard battles before, so what we’re asking is really nothing new for us. Working together we can bring back volunteer efforts while demanding efficient management and law enforce- ment from State Parks. The two have to happen in tandem, but this time it will take grassroots efforts to move the process forward. It is as much legislative as
it is political – elections have very real consequences but once those elections are over, the people in office represent all their constituents in their districts. It’s up to each and every one of us to make the legislators and their staff listen to our complaints about state parks. While at the same time, it is up to each and every one of us, to take some responsibility for our fellow off-roaders and make sure they’re safely learning the rules of the dunes.
 
Butch

Butch

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Staff member
Thank you to everyone who provided comments on the Proposed Project Concepts and Park-wide PWP Proposed Options that were presented at public meetings in December 2019. There is still time to submit comments – they will be accepted until January 24, 2020.
To provide comments, you may fill out the online Comment Form by clicking here. If you prefer, you may print and complete a Comment Card and mail it to the address on the card or scan and email it to info@OceanoDunesPWP.com. If you would like to review the materials from the public meetings, visit our project website by clicking here.
Thanks again for your interest in the PWP planning process. We look forward to hearing from you!
The PWP Planning Team
 
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