MotoGrandPrix- Portimao 2020

Race Predictions

  • Joan MIR

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Franco MORBIDELLI

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Alex RINS

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Maverick VINALES

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fabio QUARTARARO

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Andrea DOVIZIOSO

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Pol ESPARGARO

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Jack MILLER

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Takaaki NAKAGAMI

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Miguel OLIVERA

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Brad BINDER

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Danillo PETRUCCI

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Johann ZARCO

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Alex MARQUEZ

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Valentino ROSSI

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Total voters
    22

Map8

I want nothing
Staff member
Caption contest.

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ratpick

Well-known member
Just watched the race,Olivera was a machine!
So glad Miller made that killer pass and took second!
Next year should be good.
 

Lucky Jones

Ride on #69
Tech 3 now has two wins this season, and really solid results overall. Better than any season they've ever had with Yamaha, but then, this has been the year for satellite teams. I think we've only had two wins this year from Honda, Ducati and Yamaha factory riders- Dovi once and Viñales once.

1. Yamaha
2. Yamaha
3. KTM
4. Ducati
5. KTM
6. Yamaha
7. Yamaha
8. Yamaha
9. Ducati
10. Suzuki
11. Yamaha
12. Suzuki
13. Yamaha
14. KTM

There's the rounds by manufacturer. Honda laid a goose egg this season.

Yep, 6 of those Yamaha wins were Petronas, and 2 KTM wins were Tech3, definitely the year of the satellite team. Bring on more of the same in 2021! :thumbup
 
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Map8

I want nothing
Staff member
With Quartararo, Miller, Bagnaia, and Oliveira all moving to factory teams, its unlikely we'll see the satellite teams do as well next year unless Morbidelli continues his form and A. Marquez, Nakagami, Zarco and Lecuona go on a wild run. Morbidelli and Zarco will probably get the best results of that group.

Someone on Reddit joked that it was smart of Rossi to move the better Yamaha team. :laughing

Its probably worth pointing out that the definition of a satellite team is changing. Satellite teams used to be a lot more removed from the factories. Now the satellite teams are more like extensions of the factory teams, just working out of a different garage and not getting as many first class airline tickets.
 
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R3DS!X

Whatever that means
I'm actually very interested in what rossi does at petronas. They seem like a well sorted team maybe he will actually find more success there.
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Only if they put him on the ‘19 :p

Franky rocks it to the podium and the 20’s suck it for just a few points.
 

Tally Whacker

Not another Mike
Now the satellite teams are more like extensions of the factory teams, just working out of a different garage and not getting as many first class airline tickets.


Honestly, I don't really understand the resistance to giving the satellites the top shelf bikes. I mean, I guess it was in Repsol's contract with Honda for a long time that only they got the good stuff from Honda, but that seems to have been abandoned for a few years now.

What incentive do the manufacturers have for withholding the new bikes? It turned out to be a good thing for the satellites this year, but this year has been a fluke.
 

plaid

Well-known member
Caption Contest 2.0
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plaid's submission to CC 2.0:
"This ain't happenin', man." - Private Hudson
 

Map8

I want nothing
Staff member
Honestly, I don't really understand the resistance to giving the satellites the top shelf bikes. I mean, I guess it was in Repsol's contract with Honda for a long time that only they got the good stuff from Honda, but that seems to have been abandoned for a few years now.

What incentive do the manufacturers have for withholding the new bikes? It turned out to be a good thing for the satellites this year, but this year has been a fluke.

I don't see any resistance to the change and I certainly don't have a problem with it. I was just pointing out how much the definition of a satellite team has changed. Not that long ago, satellite teams only ever got last year's factory bikes. Dovi and Cal had to fund their own brake system upgrades for year-old bikes at Tech3. Now the satellite teams get the latest bikes, chassis upgrades during the season, have access to data from the factory riders and factory personnel on their staff.
 

Tally Whacker

Not another Mike
I don't see any resistance to the change and I certainly don't have a problem with it. I was just pointing out how much the definition of a satellite team has changed. Not that long ago, satellite teams only ever got last year's factory bikes. Dovi and Cal had to fund their own brake system upgrades for year-old bikes at Tech3. Now the satellite teams get the latest bikes, chassis upgrades during the season, have access to data from the factory riders and factory personnel on their staff.



I guess my question was more along the lines of "Why only now, and only some?"
 

Shaggy

Zoinks!!!!
I guess my question was more along the lines of "Why only now, and only some?"

My guess would be more parity. now between riders than ever before, which means that anyone can win a race on any given Sunday. Manufacturers want their bike on the top step so they give “2nd tier” teams the equipment to make that happen.

The number of different race winners this season is proof of the parity.

Why only some? Money. The manufacturers with the larger GP budgets are the ones with factory support for the satellite teams. Honda, Yamaha, KTM with their Red Bull money....
 
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