First high side BW CCW Grapevine

Holeshot

Holeshot

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One thing about setup VS all the % things of throttle/ grip, etc; line choice and tire pressure. Remember: your tire is a part of the suspension as well. Also remember; if you can't find grip somewhere, try a different line (for various reasons).

I do find the idea of spinning through T7 odd only because it's such a high speed corner at some decent lean angle @ either the top of one gear or mid way through the next (on my bikes). Anything happening would seem to be imperceptible from the seat. If the back is stepping out, that's creepy A/F in that place on the track. Don't discount that the RPM's rise considerably into T7 and drop coming off T7 when you get back on the fat part of the tire. Maybe that's what's going on?

T7 does have a slight dip off the exit and I think this is where the bar wag comes from. I get it near every lap, but I'm also running a really short wheelbase and maybe that has to do with it. None the less, with your comments above, you can try a line change if the slides are a problem. I tried to learn to go faster with Data Aq back about 7-8 years ago or so. It was neat, but it ended up stunting my "from the bars" learning and focused me not he wrong aspects of what makes a bike/ rider quick. In the end, Ross Bentley's books helped way more...which was off, but perfect for my needs.

The faster you go, the looser the bike will feel IME. YMMV.
 
viva_brasil

viva_brasil

Well-known member
Yea líne change is in order, I'm rushing into T7 and end up with too much lean angle on the bad side of the track as I'm trying to add throttle. It's definitely a slide, smooth but still comes out a bit (yea at 100+). Same thing happened on Riverside but I was on street tires there so the threshold was lower.

The EBR feels loose but it's predictable and hooks up really well mid-corner. The R1 I ride more neat and tidy (it also responds to much lighter inputs) and the chassis feels more stable that way. I don't have data just feeling at the bars and some feedback I managed to get from chasing and being chased by Josh Hayes. Tried to ride the R1 like the EBR at first and was losing a lot of time (though felt very fast). Now to practice riding the EBR líke the R1 and get some basic data...
 
K

KenM

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Can't say I'm fond of BW paint. I've only rode there a handful of times but have slipped on paint at least once each track day. Sketchy. I try to avoid unless straight up and down.

Was there on a few weekends ago and there must have been 15 wrecks. Ambulance rolled 4-5 times. paint was either wet or cold and neither was good. don't know how many wrecks was from paint but I'm sure some.
 
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