Earthquake preparedness thread - post your suggestions or questions

[JesasaurusRex]

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/triangle.asp

 

[Cycle61]

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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one

Thanks to that work, we now know that the Pacific Northwest has experienced forty-one subduction-zone earthquakes in the past ten thousand years. If you divide ten thousand by forty-one, you get two hundred and forty-three, which is Cascadia’s recurrence interval: the average amount of time that elapses between earthquakes. That timespan is dangerous both because it is too long—long enough for us to unwittingly build an entire civilization on top of our continent’s worst fault line—and because it is not long enough. Counting from the earthquake of 1700, we are now three hundred and fifteen years into a two-hundred-and-forty-three-year cycle.

The shaking from the Cascadia quake will set off landslides throughout the region—up to thirty thousand of them in Seattle alone, the city’s emergency-management office estimates. It will also induce a process called liquefaction, whereby seemingly solid ground starts behaving like a liquid, to the detriment of anything on top of it. Fifteen per cent of Seattle is built on liquefiable land, including seventeen day-care centers and the homes of some thirty-four thousand five hundred people. So is Oregon’s critical energy-infrastructure hub, a six-mile stretch of Portland through which flows ninety per cent of the state’s liquid fuel and which houses everything from electrical substations to natural-gas terminals. Together, the sloshing, sliding, and shaking will trigger fires, flooding, pipe failures, dam breaches, and hazardous-material spills. Any one of these second-order disasters could swamp the original earthquake in terms of cost, damage, or casualties—and one of them definitely will. Four to six minutes after the dogs start barking, the shaking will subside. For another few minutes, the region, upended, will continue to fall apart on its own. Then the wave will arrive, and the real destruction will begin.

OSSPAC estimates that in the I-5 corridor it will take between one and three months after the earthquake to restore electricity, a month to a year to restore drinking water and sewer service, six months to a year to restore major highways, and eighteen months to restore health-care facilities. On the coast, those numbers go up. Whoever chooses or has no choice but to stay there will spend three to six months without electricity, one to three years without drinking water and sewage systems, and three or more years without hospitals.

 

[Dubbington]

Recommendations for a solid 2 person Emergency Kit? I'm getting water today. Figure I can get 10 (1) gallons and store in attic or storage box in yard.

The kits on Amazon look weak.

 

[sidewazzz]

Just got our emergency bucket and bag updated.

 

[Cincinnatus]

Recommendations for a solid 2 person Emergency Kit? I'm getting water today. Figure I can get 10 (1) gallons and store in attic or storage box in yard.

The kits on Amazon look weak.

Target sells 7-gallon Aqua-Tainers (stackable 7-gallon jugs) http://www.target.com/p/reliance-7-...10756926#prodSlot=medium_1_1&term=aqua-tainer

I'd never put any survival gear in the attic, it's either going to contribute to the damage or be unavailable unless you're outside the house. Put it in an outside container (garden shed, etc.) with your other equipment.

Get CERT-ified - http://www.fema.gov/community-emergency-response-teams/

Get CERT survival supplies - http://www.survivalsolutions.com/store/CERT.html

Get FRS radios for your family members @ Costco for $70 - https://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/family-radio-service-frs

Get ham radio qualified and help your neighborhood in case of a disaster - http://www.fema.gov/news-release/2014/07/18/fema-arrl-announce-disaster-communication-partnership

 

[Cincinnatus]

No one reads the skickys.

Does anyone know of a phone to phone app that would by-pass cell towers in case of emergecy?


PTT ON<breaker breaker, good buddy, come back> PTT OFF

Cell phones rely on cell towers, without cell towers, you've got nothing. OTOH, the first thing that cell providers will be working on is the towers & power to them, so there's that. In case of emergency, set up a contact outside the state & have everyone in the emergency zone contact that person as a relay (long-distance is on a different system than local).

Not many folks use CB radios any more, ham radio has taken over. There's a ham radio thread here on teh BARFs - http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=466875

 

[Blankpage]

Satellite phone must be cheaper now than last time I've used them, 1999.

I felt a 4.8 in BC last week. It was the strongest I've ever experienced but shaking only lasted 3-4 seconds. Still was a bit disturbing for sure.

 

[Cincinnatus]

You'd think, maybe....

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...words=satellite+phone&sprefix=satelli,aps,227

 

[HappyHighwayman]

Each and every desk at work has an emergency pack. I should just bring it home.

 

[enki]

An American with a .357 Mag would have shot out the engine block, saving the froggies.

 

[NorCalAthlete]

An American with a .357 Mag would have shot out the engine block, saving the froggies.

Wrong thread.

 

[Mike95060]

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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one

That was gut wrenching.

These two paragraphs sum up everything that is wrong with America.

The last person I met with in the Pacific Northwest was Doug Dougherty, the superintendent of schools for Seaside, which lies almost entirely within the tsunami-inundation zone. Of the four schools that Dougherty oversees, with a total student population of sixteen hundred, one is relatively safe. The others sit five to fifteen feet above sea level. When the tsunami comes, they will be as much as forty-five feet below it.

In 2009, Dougherty told me, he found some land for sale outside the inundation zone, and proposed building a new K-12 campus there. Four years later, to foot the hundred-and-twenty-eight-million-dollar bill, the district put up a bond measure. The tax increase for residents amounted to two dollars and sixteen cents per thousand dollars of property value. The measure failed by sixty-two per cent. Dougherty tried seeking help from Oregon’s congressional delegation but came up empty. The state makes money available for seismic upgrades, but buildings within the inundation zone cannot apply. At present, all Dougherty can do is make sure that his students know how to evacuate.

It would cost my household about $850 for a new school that wouldn't let kids drown in a disaster we know will come someday. Seems like a bargain.

 

[Cycle61]

I just sent that link to a good friend who's lived here nearly his whole life.

We tend to think of earthquakes as something that happens to Californians, while sitting on a fault zone storing up tens of times as much energy as the San Andreas or Hayward systems.

 

[NorCalAthlete]

I feel like we should maybe have a prepper subforum. Bugout bags, medical training course info, first responder stuff, supply review/discussion.

 

[Johndicezx9]

Derp, wrong post, wrong thread...

:laughing

 

[Schnellbandit]

No one reads the skickys.

Does anyone know of a phone to phone app that would by-pass cell towers in case of emergecy?


PTT ON<breaker breaker, good buddy, come back> PTT OFF

Firechat type apps can do it.

Basically a mesh network. Bypasses cell service and uses wifi/bluetooth for communications. You need aa lot of people using it to get distance but it has been shown to work.

 

[Idioteque]

friendly reminder to get some shit in order for you and your loved ones for when this will surely hit.

Felt a little 3.3 shaker 25 minutes ago

 

[thasmydjay]

Did anyone else feel an earthquake just now? I'm in San Jose, felt a tiny one, but enough to make some things rumble.

 

[NorCalAthlete]

Yeah, there were apparently 3-4 the other day.

 

[Schnellbandit]

Ok, the fires came, you weren't affected.
The rains came right after, you weren't affected.

The earthquake will come and you will be affected.

Don't forget about it.