deer vs SXV... and up my sleeve!

Frame Maker

Well-known member
I'm not sure how much there is to actually analyze, but just a weird observation / conclusion worth mentioning....

Five weeks ago on Friday afternoon I took my SXV5.5 out to mile marker 11 (where the road goes to one lane) on Mines Rd. At that point I turned around and headed back toward Livermore.

Around mile marker 5 (final descent into the valley) I came across a small deer grazing on the right side of the road. The chain of events over the next two seconds went something like this...

- Thinking to myself... "please don't jump in front of me"
- "oh fuck! it jumped in front of me"
- grab front brakes for split second (estimate I scrubbed 5-10mph before impact)
- for a fraction of a second my complete field of vision is brown fur.
- next a tumbling sensation (first realization that I'm crashing), followed by a sliding sensation (head first and face down)
- come to a stop and first though of impending cars coming while I'm face down in the road
- adrenaline kicks in and I jump to my feet followed by first realization that I've got a badly injured right arm
- I walk to my bike a few feet away and now on the left shoulder facing the opposite direction of travel. I reach down and turn off the engine which was still running.

In the aftermath I flag down several motorists who are able to assist in getting my bike upright and off the road and one particularly generous woman who insisted in taking me "anywhere I needed to go" (home, hospital, etc) despite my bleeding arm and probable mess it would make of the interior of her car. She dropped me off at home (Livermore) and my wife drove me to Kaiser in WC. I would spend several hours in ER having my arm reconstructed (broken elbow, broken shoulder, 6" laceration down to the bone, etc), followed by a 4-day stay in the hospital.

Okay, here's the really really odd part... my wife washed and inspected my jacket (ICON Contra). The right sleeve (side that was injured) has no marks on the outside. None, like it never touched the ground. However the inside mesh was completely torn in several locations. Very odd. Then the Ortho doc who did surgery on my arm noted a large amount of dirt and debris including what he thinks may have been deer fur INSIDE my arm!

My only explanation is that in the initial impact and tumble somehow the deer's leg/hoofs went up my sleeve and tore my arm open!

The good news is that I'm past the window for infection risk and everything seams to be healing well. And lesson learned... next time slow WAY DOWN for wildlife on side of road. Deer are stupid and VERY unpredictable animals. And worth mentioning, SXVs are tough bikes and damage was very minimal (one bar mount is bent and some cheap plastic has some road rash).

Anyway, I wanted to mention the hoof up the sleeve as it was very strange and only explanation for my injuries given the observations of my jacket condition.
 

Frame Maker

Well-known member
and huge thanks to BARF'r KPKE who fetched my SXV and got it returned home and into my back yard.

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Frame Maker

Well-known member
and of course my new titanium repair kit. Notice the white triangular area between the plate and elbow joint... this is a section of bone that is unaccounted for :dunno


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budman

General Menace
Staff member
I think slowing down is the only option really.

I will slow down when I see deer or Turkey's or other large animals.. how about a steer in the road on HWY 58!! Holy shit. It was big black and bad.

A lot of deer strikes are out of nowhere and you don't even get the chance to slow.

Keep healing.
 

ctwo

Merely Rhetorical
Were you wearing gloves that went over the jacket cuff, which would be strapped tight around wrist?

Every time I see animals within striking I immediately move to your 3rd chain of events, except I've been training to use both brakes and starting light to get the bike set up for an evasive maneuver.

It sounds good in my head anyway, but no acid test.
 

berth

Well-known member
Glad to hear you're healing ok. Send that lady a Christmas card.

The hoof hypothesis is very interesting.
 

ScottRNelson

Mr. Dual Sport Rider
And lesson learned... next time slow WAY DOWN for wildlife on side of road.
This is the only suggestion I have.

I don't do it every time, but I consider it a riding mistake when I pass an animal without slowing first. A reminder that I should pay better attention.
 

bmwbob51

BMWBOB
Deer are my worst nightmare! I've hit two turkeys, but at a glancing angle. Glad your ok! I try not to ride at deer thirty (twilight).
 

Frame Maker

Well-known member
Were you wearing gloves that went over the jacket cuff, which would be strapped tight around wrist?

Unfortunately, no. I was wearing skimpy little MX gloves. Gauntlet style gloves would have likely prevented some of the injury to my arm... although never in a million years would I have predicted something, let alone an animal leg, going up my sleeve during a crash.

Glad to hear you're healing ok. Send that lady a Christmas card.

My wife contacted her a few days later and offer to have the interior of her car shampooed. She declined.


@everyone else, thanks for the well wishes. Much appreciated!
 

Aware

Well-known member
I hit a deer at about 80 a long time ago in Scotland, on my CB750. I managed not to get injured. The deer was butchered.

Other than hoping you see them in tome to slow down there's not much you can do about deer. They has the dumb in traffic.
 

295566

Numbers McGee
Glad to hear you're OK.

Did you take the deer back too? Would make an interesting garage trophy. :laughing
 

supermotomax

Active member
I am glad you are (reasonably) OK. Maybe your new fur injection will make you half-man half-deer, like in a superhero movie :laughing
 

SuperMike

unsexy
I always blast my (Stebel Nautilus) horn when I see any kind of wildlife on the roadside. Animals usually respond to sound.

Did you take the deer back too? Would make an interesting garage trophy. :laughing

Oh yeah didn't I read somewhere about a new law allowing for eating roadkill?
 

kpke

Veteran
Glad to hear you are healing up Julian.


and huge thanks to BARF'r KPKE who fetched my SXV and got it returned home and into my back yard.

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What is the monster you caught on film to the left of the ramp?

And this made me laugh.:laughing

Providing you were talking about the furry thing and not my better half...

Beware of this ferocious beast. Similar to Bigfoot in that only a few sightings have ever been made.

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And here it is getting ready to attack a predator

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KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus
- Thinking to myself... "please don't jump in front of me"
- "oh fuck! it jumped in front of me"
- grab front brakes for split second (estimate I scrubbed 5-10mph before impact)
- for a fraction of a second my complete field of vision is brown fur.
- next a tumbling sensation (first realization that I'm crashing), followed by a sliding sensation (head first and face down)
- come to a stop and first though of impending cars coming while I'm face down in the road
- adrenaline kicks in and I jump to my feet followed by first realization that I've got a badly injured right arm
- I walk to my bike a few feet away and now on the left shoulder facing the opposite direction of travel. I reach down and turn off the engine which was still running.

Holy crap.....that's the EXACT play by play I go through including the "oh shit I gotta get out of the road". However in mid tumble/slide, that thought goes through my head and I'm trying to push off the road onto my feet or tumble off the roadway.

So how's the bike? My last inpact with a furry on my SXV and it almost completely destroyed it. Tore up my pinky/foot/shoulder/etc really good too. And how did you get it home???

That jack thing is strange. However my best friend went down in a mesh textile jacket and got scraps all over her torso and arms, bad too. The jacket held together, didn't ride up, didn't tear or wear through..... it's just that it gave her severe RUG BURN from it rubbing on her body while sliding/rolling.
 
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