Crash at the bottom of 9 - near the water station

mototireguy

Moto Tire Veteran
Looks like front brake applied, bike stood up in typical fashion and then pilot surrendered/resigned on making the corner.

I did this same thing once in 1995 in Hwy9 near the top. But for me it was a lack of focus and giving up on making the turn. Every time I ride past that turn I shake my head.

Trying to learn from that mistake since then I sometimes do practice runs in different conditions where I setup for a turn, then purposefully partially/momentarily give up on the turn and then reset/recommit to the turn.
 

spear

Active member
A friend of mine crashed at that exact same spot late last year. Decreasing radius for sure and he did the exact same thing you did... except he ended up low-sliding his Ninja 300. He went for a normal apex while I chose the late apex (first weekend after reading total control which expounded late apex for street riding) and chopped the throttle and fixated on the guard rail.

Hope your shoulders okay. Friend totaled his bike. He slid into the guard rails, which bounced off his knee protection and slid-up cutting through thigh flesh. Luckily didn't get to the bone but still need surgery nonetheless.
 

dammyneckhurts

Well-known member
This all starts because you are not planning to use the front brake when entering a blind corner.

In this corner you were on the throttle before you started steering, which makes the bike want to run wide. (You did this in previous corners, and at a moderate pace (or easy corners) this was working ok for you. Then you arrived at a slightly tighter radius and entered the corner on the throttle, this started the path of running wide.

Had you moved your eyes into the corner and added more bar input you would (like you had done in previous corners), you would have been fine, but you looked at the guardrail.

Other observations:

You had used much more lean angle in previous corners which suggests you are ok with lean angle. The reason you are ok with more lean in the previous corners is because you scanned into the corner with your eyes at the right time.


This crash started with the habit of entering a blind corner while on the throttle. (bike does not steer as well and wants to run wide).

The final straw was that you looked at the guard rail instead of into the corner.
 

bitcollector

Well-known member
Looks like front brake applied, bike stood up in typical fashion and then pilot surrendered/resigned on making the corner.

I did this same thing once in 1995 in Hwy9 near the top. But for me it was a lack of focus and giving up on making the turn. Every time I ride past that turn I shake my head.

Trying to learn from that mistake since then I sometimes do practice runs in different conditions where I setup for a turn, then purposefully partially/momentarily give up on the turn and then reset/recommit to the turn.

Front Break.....check.

it's amazing how many things went wrong with the crash, so much to learn from.

I like the idea of momentarily "giving up" on a turn to practice and build muscle memory......good stuff, thanks again.
 

bitcollector

Well-known member
This all starts because you are not planning to use the front brake when entering a blind corner.

In this corner you were on the throttle before you started steering, which makes the bike want to run wide. (You did this in previous corners, and at a moderate pace (or easy corners) this was working ok for you. Then you arrived at a slightly tighter radius and entered the corner on the throttle, this started the path of running wide.

Had you moved your eyes into the corner and added more bar input you would (like you had done in previous corners), you would have been fine, but you looked at the guardrail.

Other observations:

You had used much more lean angle in previous corners which suggests you are ok with lean angle. The reason you are ok with more lean in the previous corners is because you scanned into the corner with your eyes at the right time.


This crash started with the habit of entering a blind corner while on the throttle. (bike does not steer as well and wants to run wide).

The final straw was that you looked at the guard rail instead of into the corner.

Another spot on analysis, with lots of food for thought, thanks again for helping me be a better and safer rider :ride

I'm really glad I had the video and totally amazed at the level of detail some you guys were able to call out from just the couple of minutes provided.
 
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