CA to start smogging bikes?

Oh My Sack!

Rides at speed of smell
Where are you seeing this?

Fran Pavely, the POS legislator, introduced a bill a year or so ago that ultimately got shot down but I'm not surprised that the issue has reared it's ugly head again.
 

bruddakhan

To Infinity And Beyond
Where are you seeing this?

Fran Pavely, the POS legislator, introduced a bill a year or so ago that ultimately got shot down but I'm not surprised that the issue has reared it's ugly head again.

LOL, i heard it at cycle gear the other day. Not sure if its being brought up again?
 

Map8

I want nothing
Staff member
No new bills using the words "motorcycle," "test," "smog" or "emmissions" have been introduced according the search engine on the CA legislature site. The only recent change is the law that states exhaust systems on motorcycles manufactured after January 1, 2013 have to meet Federal sound regulations.

I wouldn't trust anyone at Cycle Gear on legal issues unless he or she can tell you where to find the bill, the bill # or even when the legislature is in session. :laughing
 

Ruslank

Well-known member
Little OT but i think its stupid in general you should be able to mod what ever you want and if you dont pass smog you dont then you have to revert to stock. But if you mod and pass smog but dont have the stupid stickers thats just dumb...
 

Map8

I want nothing
Staff member
Bikes pollute way more than cars. Motorcycle fuel, exhaust and emmissions systems aren't nearly as sophisticated.
 

evil06R6

New member
I've been a smog Technician since 2001, they have been trying to get this bill to pass to smog motor cycles for years and haven't been able to do so yet. They been trying for years to smog diesels, that went through 2 years ago and only pertains to 1998 and newer and is just a visual inspection and plug into OBDII. The reason why the chose 1998 and newer is because that was when they started installing smog equipment. I wouldn't be to worried about it.
 

#1 tuner

TWF racing's speed bump
Not entirely true. They picked 1998 on diesels becuase most had gone to electronically controlled injection systems. That is why it is so easy to add power programmer to them thus making them easy starting point. I am sure they will eventually add motorcycles in the same fashion. They will pick a year models where manufactureres have gone to fuel injection. They may not include a tailpipe test initially they same as diesels are tested now. Todays motorcycle isn't nearly as "dirty" as an older carbureted model stock for stock. Most all have fuel injection some include closed loop operation with feedback through O2 sensor or A/F ratio sensor. All sold new in California have had evaporitive emissions canister for years now. Revenue stream will be too tempting for them not to smog them eventually.
 

Kornholio

:wave
Until the state can come up with a way to have motorcycles safely tested, there isn't going to be any sort of smog test.
 

packnrat

Well-known member
give the fools at carb to do it with no safe way to test a bike.
image a bike on a dynamometer machine. and the shop is by law not responsible for damage to your auto, so not responsible for damage to your bike. :wow



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Randy B

Well-known member
And wouldn't the smog operator have to have an M endorsement to even touch a bike?

Just sayin....
 

Kornholio

:wave
You act like dynamometers for a motorcycle is some sort of new technology.

The bigger issue is the cost of supplying the testing stations with the machinery. It's not about the axiomatic fact that the pollution is present. And where have you seen that a shop is not responsible for damage to your vehicle? :wtf
 

kelsodeez

2wheels good 4wheels bad
^that

i read somewhere that to outfit all of the smog stations with equipment to smog motorcycles, it would take over 10 years of motorcycle smogging for the program to get into the black.
 
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