The Electric Motorcycle Thread

HadesOmega

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You'll save some going down the hills though also. Anyway I don't think it'd make it. I would thing a SR would go around 70 miles. Plan to maybe pull over and charge somewhere. Does it have the charge tank? If you not you'll have to find some kind of outlet and it's take FOREVER to charge.
 

MikeL

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Anyone watching Long Way Up? I started watching it, 3 episodes in. It really shows how having lack of infrastructure makes long distance electric riding difficult.

I'm excited for a future with plentiful DCFC.

Edit: Just noticed another thread for this... whoops.
 

Gabe

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You'll save some going down the hills though also. Anyway I don't think it'd make it. I would thing a SR would go around 70 miles. Plan to maybe pull over and charge somewhere. Does it have the charge tank? If you not you'll have to find some kind of outlet and it's take FOREVER to charge.

I disagree. I rode from Oakland to Road Rider in San Jose on a 2013 S at a steady 60-65 mph and made it with about 40 miles range remaining. I’d recommend going up 9 to Skyline and then San Mateo bridge. I remember having 100 or more freeway miles as long as you stayed at 65 or slower, which sucks, but you’ll make it. Again make sure it’s 100% charged.
 

R3DS!X

Whatever that means
So only one thread for electrics huh. Well I just bought one. A 2016 Zero SR ZF 13.0.

I am gonna pick it up from the guy in Santa Cruz this week. Do you think it can make it from Santa Cruz to Oakland? The specs say brand new it will do 90+ miles highway. What do you think? How about if I take 35 or HWY1? Is that more efficient?

I don't think so. To increase your odds of making it, go slow, like 60mph.
 

Gabe

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I don't think so. To increase your odds of making it, go slow, like 60mph.

You're saying that based on personal experience? Zero rated the ZF13 pack at 108 miles range at 55. Actual distance is 81 miles. If he does 2-lane roads for half the trip he'll make it with 20% to spare.
 

berth

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What is the status of the battery after 4 years? That may have an impact on this as well, right?
 

Gabe

COVID-fefe
What is the status of the battery after 4 years? That may have an impact on this as well, right?

If the bike has the average miles for an American motorcycle (15-20k) and the original owner wasn't' a completely negligent idiot (like many Santa Cruz Craigslist bike sellers are for some reason) and didn't drain the battery to dead and leave the bike under a tarp in a banana slug-infested backyard, the battery capacity should be at least 95%.
 

Gabe

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Catch a draft on the way back. Or come back during rush hour for that slower riding economy

You can always do half the trip, and if you're at less than 50% battery you can switch to surface streets to extend your range.
 

R3DS!X

Whatever that means
You're saying that based on personal experience? Zero rated the ZF13 pack at 108 miles range at 55. Actual distance is 81 miles. If he does 2-lane roads for half the trip he'll make it with 20% to spare.

Yeah. I more so found it really difficult to stay at slower speeds all the time and when you get lower on the battery the bike will then make you go stupid slow. So you might have charge left but the bike is unrideable at freeway speeds. So the real empty on the bike is not 0 but more like 30. at least that how it was on my zero.
 

erensi

feeling good, not bad
ok thanks for the responses. I think Wednesday I'll do this. I will take the train and uber out there and ride back and make sure the guy has it fully charged. I'll let you know how it goes.
 

HadesOmega

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Santa Cruz to Oakland is like 70 miles I am skeptical you'll make that, in my honest opinion. Especially since your going over 17. However at least you are going one way. I know my round trip limit from San Jose is about San Leandro and back.

Always expect you'll get less range, it a good thing is warm right now, temperature plays a big part in range, cold battery = less range.

I don't have a zero but if you get to about 20% state of charge you should look for a place to pull over and charge.

That's how it's like riding an electric bike lots of planning involved. If you look on the app plugshare you can find outlets to charge at. If you don't have the charge tank you will have to look for 110V outlets.

I know its common sense but make sure the tires have proper air pressure before you take off. Infact over inflate them a tad.

But good luck let us know how it turns out haha. I wanted to buy my dad a Zero SR for commuting just to see what it was like to have a Zero motorcycle but don't think that's gonna happen.
 
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dittoalex

Too much lean angle...
I have the same 13.0 kWh battery, I'd recommend hypermilling it in eco mode and bringing a power cable. Should make it home with 00% flashing.
 

HadesOmega

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Thought I should post some pictures in the Electric Bike thread but I returned from Supermoto USA Round 1 2020 at Shasta Kart Klub in Redding, California VICTORIOUS! Podium finish for every race I entered. The Light Bee got second in GPC and Adult Mini Supermoto. People could not believe how fast that little electric bike was haha! I raced against some chinese 125cc and 140cc bikes, XR100, and CRF230. We all lost to the XR100 because Hawk Mazotta was riding it! To date my Light Bee has taken home 5 trophies with me!

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DonTom

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If you don't have the charge tank you will have to look for 110V outlets.
And wait around ten hours or so!

But not really always true. I charge my 2017 Zero SR with power tank (NOT charge tank) at 6.3 KWs while on the road. From J-1772, or a Tesla Destination charge station or even a 240 VAC outlet. See my Zero SR charging here, with my chargers. There I am charging from 120 VAC and 240 VAC at the same time. 120 VAC going to the OBC.

I bring two Elcon 2.5 KW chargers, one in each side bag. I wire them to the motor controller battery connections and also use the OBC for a total of 6.3 KW. I charge as fast as 8.4 KWs at home, by adding in two Delta-Q chargers using a Tesla Tap for the entire 8.4 KW from my 12 KW Tesla Wall Connector.

-Don- Reno, NV
 

Gabe

COVID-fefe
And wait around ten hours or so!

But not really always true. I charge my 2017 Zero SR with power tank (NOT charge tank) at 6.3 KWs while on the road. From J-1772, or a Tesla Destination charge station or even a 240 VAC outlet. See my Zero SR charging here, with my chargers. There I am charging from 120 VAC and 240 VAC at the same time. 120 VAC going to the OBC.

I bring two Elcon 2.5 KW chargers, one in each side bag. I wire them to the motor controller battery connections and also use the OBC for a total of 6.3 KW. I charge as fast as 8.4 KWs at home, by adding in two Delta-Q chargers using a Tesla Tap for the entire 8.4 KW from my 12 KW Tesla Wall Connector.

-Don- Reno, NV

So basically you can get from 20-80% in about an hour?
 

erensi

feeling good, not bad
And wait around ten hours or so!

But not really always true. I charge my 2017 Zero SR with power tank (NOT charge tank) at 6.3 KWs while on the road. From J-1772, or a Tesla Destination charge station or even a 240 VAC outlet. See my Zero SR charging here, with my chargers. There I am charging from 120 VAC and 240 VAC at the same time. 120 VAC going to the OBC.

I bring two Elcon 2.5 KW chargers, one in each side bag. I wire them to the motor controller battery connections and also use the OBC for a total of 6.3 KW. I charge as fast as 8.4 KWs at home, by adding in two Delta-Q chargers using a Tesla Tap for the entire 8.4 KW from my 12 KW Tesla Wall Connector.

-Don- Reno, NV

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Holy Jaezus that is hella plugs and wires, big ass boxes and fans and stuff. It looks like most of what you're carrying is charging equipment! :wtf

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This looks better.
 
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