The AMA.

[packnrat]

I get your angst, op, but...
Question, though, have you even emailed/written to the AMA those specific gripes that you have placed in your postings?

Have you asked them for a clear answer on why they have not done more for lane sharing, etc....(per state).

What are the responses you are getting, if any?
btw, I'm also waiting for Texas to put it on the ballot, again (3rd time).

it's been 8-9 years since you've been a member, and now you are complaining about them? Why now? :confused

The AMA is "actively trying to kill it's members", really? come on man, why the melodrama, when that's not true at all. You simply don't agree that they should put so much resource into that subject, but that hardly translates into this organization trying to "kill it's members".

another said they are trying to kill people. this i do not believe.

and only cause i just found this thread.
sad but when anything good comes along, it will always get corrupted after it becomes successful. or just become a useless quagmire and die off.
now if these Washington dc lobbying groups would show themselves (not just the ama) and not stay hidden maybe i could change my mind.
sure i try to not watch much tube. i drive a lot (job) and i do not hear anything on the radio. or even see any billboard, just trying to get the eye of people in general.
other countries have open and productive campaigns promoting safety and awareness of motorcycles on the rds.

shit if i could get to be the zar of moto safety here in ca.
first i would get rich...political thing.

but would get the word out for safety. better laws are made in the open with voters knowing the truth.
not behind closed doors in a fancy lunch paid for by special interests. and all poked up with useless and not even same as the bill is talking about.

yes i am a bit down on our hired legastaters. and unknown bureaucrats. :afm199


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maybe i just forgot to take my pills :wow


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[Surj]

where was the ama when nevada tried to get lane sharing "approved"?????.

I get your angst, op, but...
Question, though, have you even emailed/written to the AMA those specific gripes that you have placed in your postings?

Have you asked them for a clear answer on why they have not done more for lane sharing, etc....(per state).

I have talked to various folks at the AMA about the lane splitting thing at great length—you can read those answers here at LaneSplittingIsLegal.com.

Of note:
- "Historically, the concept of lane splitting has been a regional issue with AMA members and motorcyclists in general. Where it is in widespread practice – California – the AMA endorses the concept and applauds the guidelines recently issued by the California Highway Patrol."

- So here’s the big question: the AMA’s position statement says it “will assist groups and individuals working to bring legal lane splitting and/or filtering to their states.” What does this actually mean? “A lot of people have a misconception about what the AMA can and can’t do, what the AMA does. The AMA is not large enough to go into each individual state as a lobby entity. We just don’t have the personnel, we just don’t have the resources. We have to rely on our members to kind of be the AMA in each individual state.”

- The AMA has had pro-splitting articles in its member magazine recently.

Oh, and let's not forget the lane splitting position statement.

 

[machete]

Thanks Surj, great information. :thumbup

 

[packnrat]

how about if the ama stops paying for trips (so called fact finding missions) for the top brass.
and use the cash for billboards promoting motorbike safety.
- done on a national scale.-
but that is too easy..and cheep, much lower costs compared to buying TV time during the superbowl.

maybe even just down playing the fools on bikes that make cagers fear and hate us.

i bet they could even get free time from the local leos and proper riders in helping out on that one. arty

nothing in your face (that turns people off). :afm199

just a couple billboards along the commute routes.

maybe even get the free public service deal on a tv. (none prime time).
maybe the producers are riders and will help out on the costs? :wow.


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[day004]

I've been an AMA member for over 25 years . Lately I have been a "Legislative Supporter".
2 Items that they have been successful in fighting for US are ,
1. Creating a unified noise standard and measurement system . With many states, counties and cities creating individual standards for how loud is too loud ,they have pushed for the use of SAE J2825 as a way to measure motorcycle exhaust sound.
2. They are fighting a widespread clause that would invalidate your health insurance if you have an accident while riding a motorcycle. Period. Folks riding legal to the teeth and having their claims ignored because the had an accident while riding. Obamacare didn't solve this issue because nobody cared enough about it to get it exposed for what it is. A money grab by the insurance industry.

 

[budman]

I am a charter Life Member as well and damn proud of it.

Right now Nick Haris (AMA Western States Rep), Surj and I are working with Assemblyman Quirk to help guide his lane splitting bill to the best outcome possible for us.

Right now the AMA has been pushing hard on Moto Tax money being used where it is suppose to be and GDAMN... the State of California is finally looking to pay back 200M of our OHV Money...:banana

Right now the AMA is working behind the scenes on the Anti Profiling bill here in CA, which will not allow the Po Po to arbitrarily pull over Moto's.

Right now the AMA is supporting Lane Sharing around the Country and we are seeing bills in several states moving forward.

Right now the AMA has a moto safety study going and with this and the MSF study we will have an amazing amount of data for the experts to analyze for years to come.

Right now the AMA is sanctioning so much racing it makes tens of thousands of racers and more fans enjoy the sport..

Right now... you should join and help them chase the two wheel life in the USA.

 

[Maddevill]

You want the AMA to be more responsive and effective? Then we all need to JOIN. A larger organization carries more clout then a small one. So it doesn't do everything exactly they way you'd like, it is still the ONLY existing organization that has ANY of our concerns as it's main objective.

 

[budman]

That is truth Steve.

I, at times find it hard to accept that so many riders say they don't do this.. or represent that.. or they do this and can complain about someone who is actually DOING SOMETHING!!

Yes the want to help manufacturers of course..! Otherwise what the hell are we going to ride?

They do listen to their members.. you don't like their stance on the helmet law.?? Well fricking join so your voice can be heard...! They do support wearing one BTW.

The top brass goes on trips...? Well jeez. Thanks Obama.

 

[Surj]

Well said, Budman and Steve. :thumbup

 

[Lunch Box]

So it doesn't do everything exactly they way you'd like, it is still the ONLY existing organization that has ANY of our concerns as it's main objective.

I agree with most of the sentiment here, but the above statement is false. CORVA has some of my greatest concerns right at the top of its list of objectives.

 

[budman]

To be clear CORVA is an off road vehicle organization and does not address street riders rights other than a bit of dual purpose. It is good organization that brings together snow mobiles, motorcycles, cars and trucks and even hunters to address closures and access issues. :thumbup

If you are an off road nut both org's are fighting for you!