Show us your Cadillac!

[auntiebling]

That was another dumpster fire for Cadillac. They told me that every single one immediately came back after delivery with laundry lists of issues. Got to the point where the owner of the store just had the tech take possession of the car for a few days as soon as it rolled off the truck and put a couple hundred miles on them to to flush out all issues and fix them before actually allowing the car to be sold.

I really like the aesthetics, same with the xlr.

Forst time I recall noticing the allante was when Gary busey caracheter in some movie was convinced it was collectible because: pinnfarina and as the bad guy took it with him on his escape cargo plane. The car got dumped out the back, dont recall if it was intended or was the thematic device signaling the bad guy had been served his comeuppance. It was hilarious

 

[FLH03RIDER]

The Catera and Cimarron, right up there with the Pontiac Aztec. WTF was GM thinking when they allowed that shit?!

 

[FLH03RIDER]

Moving the pendulum back to some of Cadillac's very cool and pretty successful racing cars.

2000 and 2002 Le Mans Prototype cars with the Northstar engines.

(From Wiki) - A highly modified 650 hp (485 kW) version of this engine was used by General Motors racing division initially for Indy Racing League competition starting in 1995, then was later used in the Cadillac Northstar LMP program in 2000. Both engines retained the 4.0 L capacity, but the Northstar LMP version was twin-turbocharged. The engine for the Northstar LMP was based on a smaller 4.0 Liter variant of the Northstar used in Cadillacs, known as the L47, used in GM's Oldsmobile Aurora sedan. It had already been adapted for racing in 1995 for use in the Indy Racing League, but was thoroughly modified in order to not only increase power, but increase longevity. McLaren Engines assisted in the development of the new prototype engine, while Ishikawajima-Harima Heavy Industries (IHI) produced twin turbochargers to increase output.

After the 2002 season GM Motorsports group dropped the LMP cars to focus their efforts on the Corvette.

But that was all to change in 2017!

 

[FLH03RIDER]

In the meantime...
In 2004, Cadillac entered the ultra-competitive SCCA Pro Racing World Challenge GT Championship with the CTS-V Sedan. From their debut in 2004 to 2007, Team Cadillac CTS-V Sedans won a Manufacturer’s Championship (2005), a Driver’s Championship (Andy Pilgrim, 2005), had 10 wins, seven pole position starts and 36 podium finishes, including wins.

Cadillac returned to professional racing in 2011 with two CTS-V Coupes in the ultra-competitive Pirelli World Challenge GT Series with seasoned drivers Johnny O’Connelll and Andy Pilgrim. In 2011, the team posted two wins, Mid-Ohio and Road Atlanta, to prove the competitiveness of the new Standard of the World race cars.

2004 CTS-V Sedan (Gen 1) and 2011 CTS-V Coupe (Gen 2).

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[W800]

In the meantime...
In 2004, Cadillac entered the ultra-competitive SCCA Pro Racing World Challenge GT Championship with the CTS-V Sedan. From their debut in 2004 to 2007, Team Cadillac CTS-V Sedans won a Manufacturer’s Championship (2005), a Driver’s Championship (Andy Pilgrim, 2005), had 10 wins, seven pole position starts and 36 podium finishes, including wins.

Cadillac returned to professional racing in 2011 with two CTS-V Coupes in the ultra-competitive Pirelli World Challenge GT Series with seasoned drivers Johnny O’Connelll and Andy Pilgrim. In 2011, the team posted two wins, Mid-Ohio and Road Atlanta, to prove the competitiveness of the new Standard of the World race cars.

2004 CTS-V Sedan (Gen 1) and 2011 CTS-V Coupe (Gen 2).

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Nice! I'm a fan of the Gen 2 CTS for obvious reasons. Although a Gen 3 CTS-V would be nice if I wasn't saving up to buy a house, LOL!!!

 

[FLH03RIDER]

Ha, ha... Someone on here has the caption something like: "You can sleep in your car, but you can can't race a house".
Just kidding ya. Go for the house, it's the better option!

I had the opportunity to drive the Gen 3, CTS V and the ATS V at Daytona on the 3.56 mile road course. Unbelievable experience. Both cars are just phenomenal and fun!!!

 

[budman]

I had the opportunity to drive the Gen 3, CTS V and the ATS V at Daytona on the 3.56 mile road course. Unbelievable experience. Both cars are just phenomenal and fun!!!

Damn you.. :laughing

That is awesome. Very jelly.

At first I was like... what about the brakes???
Then realized... Daytona road course is not huge braking but still.
I wonder if they did anything special to them?

When I did THill I put in high temp brake pads and high temp fluid, but still had them steaming when I came off. Enchanter pointed that out.. "Go cruise the pits to cool them off!"

 

[W800]

Ha, ha... Someone on here has the caption something like: "You can sleep in your car, but you can can't race a house".
Just kidding ya. Go for the house, it's the better option!

I had the opportunity to drive the Gen 3, CTS V and the ATS V at Daytona on the 3.56 mile road course. Unbelievable experience. Both cars are just phenomenal and fun!!!

LOL - so tempting!!!!!

If I had put a little money into BTC a couple years ago, I would be golden!

 

[FLH03RIDER]

From what I can find the Gen 3 CTS V's (2016) went to a little larger front rotor: Fronts 390mm/15.35", Gen 2's were 380mm/15". Larger size was probably due to the jump in horsepower up to 640.

Cars at Daytona were changed to hi-temp pads and fluid, otherwise "stock". Tires were the Michelin Pilot Super Sports, same as what you got when you got the car from the dealer.

Really high brake points, where you had to dump a lot of speed, were coming down the front section into Turn One onto the "road course" section and then hard on the throttle out of 6 up through 7 and down the back straight and on the brakes before making the turn into 8. If you hit the apex's through 8, 9, 10, and 11 you can carry a lot of speed up into and around 12.

It's absolutely a rush and crazy fun cause the big corners (7 & 12) are banked at 31 degrees and the front section is 18 degrees. :teeth

The big CTS V's just pull so hard coming out of the big corners and down the straights and were still wicked fast through the infield sections, although the ATS V's had a bit more, shall we say, finesse, through the twisties.

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[budman]

Lots of air time to cool the brake compared to THill.

High speed air time!!

Had to be a blast. :cool

How fast was the top speed?

 

[FLH03RIDER]

After the first morning session we were divided into 4 groups. I was in Group 1 with three cars, the other groups were four cars each. Initially we were told 140 max, but after lunch our instructor said we're going to wick it up a bit since we were a pretty tight group.
Out of turn 7 down to the Bus Stop, 135-140's. Out of 12 down past S/F 155-160 and hard on the brakes for turn 1. Making the apex at probably 40 and with a little trail braking the back end will gently step out and your setup for 2.

For the infield section it was about 45-50ish. Ha, ha... the Big Boys, Joao Barbosa and Christian Fittipaldi, run the infield around 65-70 and 195-200ish coming out of 12 across the S/F. Smooth is FAST and they make it look soooo easy!

Joao and Christian signed my helmet. :teeth

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[budman]

Way cool!!!

Jar full of Jelly.! :teeth

 

[FLH03RIDER]

Daytona was definitely a Bucket List item!

Would love to have one of these too.
Here's a vid of Dave Leone, Cadillac's Chief Engineer giving a technical review of the Gen 3, CTS V.

youtu.be/YlV97Esqwac

 

[FLH03RIDER]

I know, I know, I've had more than a few sips of the kool-aid. :laughing

Here's the ATS V review. (Mine's a six speed manual. :teeth)
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youtu.be/pH7-iZTHyb4

 

[W800]

9 second gen 3!


youtu.be/t2o4Ev3lxg0

 

[TheRobSJ]

Quite few 3rd Gen CTS-Vs at the half miles last month. Just like the Z06, there’s quite a bit of ways to add power to those things. There was one making I wanna say somewhere around 1200hp. And just like the Z06, since it’s only a less than 20 second pull, the whole overheat potential isn’t a problem.

 

[Johndicezx9]

Daytona was definitely a Bucket List item!

Would love to have one of these too.
Here's a vid of Dave Leone, Cadillac's Chief Engineer giving a technical review of the Gen 3, CTS V.

youtu.be/YlV97Esqwac

During a Historics/Car Week here a few years back, when those were new, I saw one with a personal plate: CADZILA

:laughing

 

[TheRobSJ]

Daytona was definitely a Bucket List item!

Would love to have one of these too.
Here's a vid of Dave Leone, Cadillac's Chief Engineer giving a technical review of the Gen 3, CTS V.

youtu.be/YlV97Esqwac

I know he’s a real engineer, but he may have had to do a deal with the devil to be the “chief” engineer. Why do I say this? At about 1:40 in, he says what I can’t possibly imagine any true car engineer would say and says wet sump is better than dry sump. For a grocery getter, sure go ahead and stay wet, because yes he’s right the dry sump setup costs more, weighs more, and takes up more room. But for a performance car? Yes it costs more, weighs more, and takes up more room. But the performance gains you get and driving dynamics improvements from moving the center of gravity lower with the dry sump are absolutely worth it.

Cliff notes: They didn’t have the packaging room to implement the dry sump in that platform like that engine has in the Corvette. The same reason why the CTS platform (GM Alpha) mate, the Camaro also didn’t get the dry sump. So he threw out some bullshit as to why they “wanted” wet sump over dry.

 

[W800]

Quite few 3rd Gen CTS-Vs at the half miles last month. Just like the Z06, there’s quite a bit of ways to add power to those things. There was one making I wanna say somewhere around 1200hp. And just like the Z06, since it’s only a less than 20 second pull, the whole overheat potential isn’t a problem.

Yes - I don't really know much about hot-rodding newer cars, but it seems that that an ECU reprogram, maybe some different injectors and FI plenum or whatever it's called, and some suspension & tires could get it up there. Then maybe a cam? Or are folks just running nitrous?

 

[TheRobSJ]

Yes - I don't really know much about hot-rodding newer cars, but it seems that that an ECU reprogram, maybe some different injectors and FI plenum or whatever it's called, and some suspension & tires could get it up there. Then maybe a cam? Or are folks just running nitrous?

You’re on the right track. But nitrous doesn’t see much use in this space. The easy stuff is the bolt on modifications. Exhaust, intake, and specifically in the case of a supercharged engine like the CTS-V, you can do the pulley(s) and overdrive the blower. Maybe put on a bigger throttle body and have the stock blower ported. Then a reflashed PCM (a tune) with all that would get the CTS-V to 750-800hp which is not bad at all for a fairly small investment. Going deeper would be to replace the stock supercharger with a much bigger one. Then injectors (with possibly running a tune to use E85 fuel) and a different camshaft. And that would be enough to crack 1000hp.