Newly minted ADV bike owner seeking advice

elemetal

3 pings and a zing
How are the cots with sloped/uneven ground? With pads you can orient them a little to the slope in your tent and they work OK, I'm assuming cots you can do the same?
Gotta' finalize my kit and take it out for a test this fall, too many things keep putting me off but it's time.
 

Cabrito

cabrón
How are the cots with sloped/uneven ground? With pads you can orient them a little to the slope in your tent and they work OK, I'm assuming cots you can do the same?
Gotta' finalize my kit and take it out for a test this fall, too many things keep putting me off but it's time.


I always look for a flat space, but if it's just bumpy or if the ground had sharp rocks or debris then the cot rules because you are above them.

Cots aren't for everyone that's for sure, but I like mine.
 

1962siia

Well-known member
I have a similar cheapie cot that fits in a small stuff sack and weighs nothing. I used it last year and it was a winner for sure. I’m a sleep under the stars kinda moto camper so I didn’t have a screen or tent but that would be handy depending on conditions. I also have an inflatable pillow that was the icing on the cake. Stuffs into small little sack and was totally worth having along.
 

matty

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Cots aren't for everyone that's for sure, but I like mine.

I was relatively certain, that I wasn't a cot person, but y'all are making some compelling points. I may have to reconsider my stance.

And from a cheapo cot I just looked up: "After installation, please don't use it with a sudden impact force, please normal smooth sit or lie down, please keep in a state of balance. " What, I can't bounce on it?:laughing
 

CDONA

Home of Vortex tuning
Tents are based on how many poles, per size, overall strength, in a two man tent
2, lightweight, easy to assemble, inexpensive, simple, wind will flatten it. two season.
3, stronger, possible vestibule, better venting, little warmer, 1/2 man more rating, handle stronger winds, three season.
4, stronger for a snow/wind load, with all of three's upgrades,
expedition four season
I bought a Kelty 4 pole used it for 15 years until sunshine weakened the nylon fabric.
I went with a Sierra Designs 3 pole, with vestibule.
Both are considered "backpacking" tents.
 

Cabrito

cabrón
I was relatively certain, that I wasn't a cot person, but y'all are making some compelling points. I may have to reconsider my stance.

And from a cheapo cot I just looked up: "After installation, please don't use it with a sudden impact force, please normal smooth sit or lie down, please keep in a state of balance. " What, I can't bounce on it?:laughing

On my cheap cot I have to be careful with movements. I rocked forward adjusting once and it slid forward falling off of all the feet. I had to turn it over and reassemble the legs onto the cot frame. It was a pain, but just took a minute.
 

norcalkid

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Totally agree on not going all out on gear. I'm on a budget so I've got to make sure I get the most out of what I spend.

The only thing I may go fancy on is a cot instead of sleeping pad. I've never been able to sleep well on those when I was doing the boy scout thing with my son, and now that I'm way older, I know that I'm going to have to get something more like a cot if I hope to get anything resembling sleep while on the road.

I've seen a couple MotoCamping youtubers use them.

I think this is the one - review : https://youtu.be/W3tQids996Q?t=876

https://helinox.com/collections/cot...ZZG8x3ts_cMoQ-K6YO4N5uAsvSs_wF-xoCnA8QAvD_BwE

I think you gota remember your not carrying it on your back. So you don't really need the ultralite/ultra expensive stuff. Good quality but not the crazy expensive backpacking stuff.

I use a Outdoor labs air mattress(I think a Chinese knock off of the brand name ones??). It's the kind that's a bunch of diamonds so you don't slosh around like on a traditional air mattress. I also use the blow up pillow which is surprisingly comfortable(looks like Outdoor labs has one similar to mine I'm not sure of my brand). I think you can get both for about $49 on Amazon. (note, I think there are different length pads so make sure to get the right size, I'm not sure which I linked.) I have only used this pad on a few trips so can't say how they will hold up over time but so far I'm impressed. Sleeping on these new diamond style ones is nothing like the air mattresses we grew up with.


I think this is it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RJI-TPFS90
 
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norcalkid

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Also check out the BRS 3000T stove. Dirt cheap and IMO fine for casual use. I really just use it for coffee in the morning. Works fine.
 

EBDan

Active member
Also check out the BRS 3000T stove. Dirt cheap and IMO fine for casual use. I really just use it for coffee in the morning. Works fine.

Thanks for the recommendations. I like the BRS 300T stove...great price and packs small.

Awesome information from everyone posting!
 

norcalkid

Well-known member
I also like this atlas. I rip out the pages I'll be using that day and stick on tank bag. The reason I prefer this one is it has a lot of public campgrounds listed. So if I'm tired I just look for a cluster of campsites and I will find something in what's probably a nice area.


Can see I changed original plan when I saw how big/crappy highway 90 was and came down 89 headed to a cluster of campgrounds just after Red Lodge, before Yellowstone. Ya, I'm still figuring this out too. haha
IMG_20200921_124050 by Norcalkid, on Flickr

IMG_20200921_124111 by Norcalkid, on Flickr
 
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EBDan

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I also like this atlas. I rip out the pages I'll be using that day and stick on tank bag. The reason I prefer this one is it has a lot of public campgrounds listed.

I've added that Atlas (2020 version) to my Amazon Wishlist. Reminds me of the days of the Thompson Bros Maps I would have in my car before GPS :afm199 Always good to have a non-electronic map as a backup.

Do these campgrounds typically allow drop ins, or do you need to stop where there is cell/data service to setup a reservation?
 

norcalkid

Well-known member
I've added that Atlas (2020 version) to my Amazon Wishlist. Reminds me of the days of the Thompson Bros Maps I would have in my car before GPS :afm199 Always good to have a non-electronic map as a backup.

Do these campgrounds typically allow drop ins, or do you need to stop where there is cell/data service to setup a reservation?

Both, I mean all I have been too allow drop in. Doesn't mean there will be a spot left for you in high season. That's why I look for areas with a couple of them.
 
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