Hollister Hills closed 12/31 till further notice

banshee01

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Due to hospital capacity it is closed. Probably gonna be till we get out of the Deep purple down here
 

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auditude

Wut, bodda you?
I’ve been getting notifications around 9-10 daily that Carnegie is at capacity.

I’m guessing it’ll continue as long as HH are closed...

Hoping people get it together and stay home to flatten the curve and relieve the ERs and hospital staff.

Cheers to 2021!!!
 

Butch

poseur
Staff member
Hollister is San Benito County. I wonder what criteria the state is using. Hmmm. Research.
 

banshee01

Well-known member
Hollister is San Benito County. I wonder what criteria the state is using. Hmmm. Research.

We have been building houses like crazy here in san Benito county but our hospital is small. We had 4 ICU beds total.

I am sure with the holiday vacation season here since last week people have been showing up at the hospital from Hollister Hills. Hazel Hawkins hospital probably said enough is enough. I am sure they are overwhelmed by covid due to their size and wanted the injured from HH to stop showing up.
 

KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus
it's not based on individual county. It's based on the region. Did you see how they common core math up the numbers on "ICU bed capacity"? It's all over the news, 1300+ open beds and 0% capacity
 

Butch

poseur
Staff member
There is this
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR20-354.aspx

"Current Status of Regional Stay at Home Order in Affected Regions

San Joaquin Valley: Remains under order because four-week ICU projections are less than 15%.

Southern California: Remains under order because four-week ICU projections are less than 15%.

Greater Sacramento: Eligible to exit the order as early as January 2, however the order will likely be extended based on early ICU projections. Official ICU projections will be calculated beginning with January 1 data and posted publicly on January 2, which will inform future status of the region.

Bay Area: Will remain under the order until January 8 at the earliest with potential to extend depending on four-week ICU capacity projections.

The ICU capacity projections are based on four factors: current estimated regional ICU capacity available, measure of current community transmission, current regional case rates and the proportion of ICU cases being admitted. Decreasing community transmission and increasing the health system capacity can help a region's projected ICU capacity so they can exit the order."

What does "they common core math up the numbers" mean?
 
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KooLaid

Hippocritapotamus
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/12...e-0-icu-capacity-and-1300-available-icu-beds/

The ICU capacity measure "is standardized to reflect effective capacity in ICUs by looking at the percentage of COVID-19 positive patients in the ICU," the department wrote.

So that would mean each region has an ICU capacity that is "adjusted" to account for the intense demand for COVID-19 care.

CDPH says it calculates the adjusted ICU capacity based on the proportion of ICU patients who have COVID-19. "If a region is utilizing more than 30% of its ICU beds for COVID-19 positive patients, then its available ICU capacity is adjusted downward by 0.5% for each 1% over the 30% threshold," according to the CDPH office of public affairs.


Adjusted or unadjusted health professionals say that the capacity of the ICU is a very fluid number, taking into account the availability of ICU nurses, necessary equipment, and adequate space (not just beds). Stated. Ultimately, experts say you can increase capacity, but capacity measurement is an important tool for monitoring how much load your system is under.

What does "they common core math up the numbers" mean?
A different way to brew up the numbers. Simply put as the common complaint amongst parents now days in helping their kids with math homework, a newer more complex way to do the same thing.
 
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You can always add more beds, the scarce resources are the staff and travel ICU nurses which just about every hospital is clamoring for, I presume their math is just trying to account for the increasing lack of those human resources.
 

D408

Active member
You can always add more beds, the scarce resources are the staff and travel ICU nurses which just about every hospital is clamoring for, I presume their math is just trying to account for the increasing lack of those human resources.

THIS! I have a close friend who is a critical care pulmonologist here in CA. Their nurses are running a 3 to 1 patient to nurse ratio and they are getting hammered. They are also running on low staffing levels as Covid has decimated the staff at his hospital. Sure, there might be beds, but there is nobody to staff those beds. Just yesterday the US posted its highest one day death toll since July...the holiday wave is just now starting to hit hospitals and the next couple months looks bleak. We should be trying to do our best for the healthcare workers, as the stuff they area dealing with day to day is horrific.
 

DirtyD

Lives for MotoX
I've been riding motox almost every weekend for the last 25 years. Not about to stop now because there are some reports that the hospitals are full (not what I hear from the nurses I know).
And obviously you can't catch the Vid riding your dirt bike at an OHV park. I'm shocked that anyone on BARF would agree that shutting down Hollister is a good idea. Ride to live, live to ride.
 

banshee01

Well-known member
I've been riding motox almost every weekend for the last 25 years. Not about to stop now because there are some reports that the hospitals are full (not what I hear from the nurses I know).
And obviously you can't catch the Vid riding your dirt bike at an OHV park. I'm shocked that anyone on BARF would agree that shutting down Hollister is a good idea. Ride to live, live to ride.

San benito county has 1 hospital. It is a small hospital. After Hollister hills closed they were able to increase bed capacity from the 20s to 75 I believe it was. Also 10 more icu nurses and 10 more ER nurses. I am sure the Hospital pulled some strings to close HH becuse they were dealing with covid and had people coming in to the ER from Hollister Hills. That staff is all to familiar with dirtbike injuries

I was disappointed they closed it but being this is my community I am fine with the decision to take some pressure off our small hospital staff. It was never about catching Covid at HH it was about people getting injured showing up in the ER.

Happy they were able to get more beds and equally as important more staff.

I think common sense was applied to this situation and I am fine with the decision. I can only imagine on a busy day how many people go to that ER from Hollister Hills
Too many idiots up at Hollister Hills over Christmas break. Improper gear, drinking and riding, hauling ass through the parking lots etc etc etc

Now let's open responsible and open to San Benito County residents only :twofinger

Talk is Newsom might lift the stay at home order today unless they confused "lift" and "extend"

https://www.ksbw.com/article/stay-home-orders-regions-state-may-be-lifted-covid/35303252
 
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Butch

poseur
Staff member
I agree that shutting down Hollister is a good idea.

Folks do not always make the right decisions on their own. There are injuries, especially on a busy weekend, and that would compromise the hospital’s ability to serve the community.
 

usedtobefast

Well-known member
Is there any formula or situation defined for when it will re-open?

If it closed because the hospital was overloaded (makes sense) then shouldn't HH open again once hospital is no longer overloaded?

Maybe they could start with M-F open to ease back into things?

Who makes these decisions?
 
I agree that shutting down Hollister is a good idea.

Folks do not always make the right decisions on their own. There are injuries, especially on a busy weekend, and that would compromise the hospital’s ability to serve the community.

Not sure I understand the correlation between closing off an OHV park and ICU beds.

How many people are evacuated from Hollister hills with injuries requiring intensive care unit?

I mean I rarely see people hit unconscious even in MX even less so on regular trail riding.
 

usedtobefast

Well-known member
Not sure I understand the correlation between closing off an OHV park and ICU beds.

How many people are evacuated from Hollister hills with injuries requiring intensive care unit?

I mean I rarely see people hit unconscious even in MX even less so on regular trail riding.

I think it was more to do with Hospital being overwhelmed ... like number of people showing up at ER with Covid complications, they would come in as an ER patient just like a hurt dirt biker from HH would show up to the ER.
 

Joseppi

no longer bikeless.
since the restrictions have been lessens by Newsom ,is there any work of Hollister reopening soon?I mean this should mean that the hospitals are less overwhelmed right?
 
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