Dirtbike help - green stickers etc

OaklandF4i

OaklandF4i

Darwin's exception
After a 20 yr hiatus from dirtbikes, I am looking at picking up an older CR125 or 250 again (when the right deal comes my way) But I've got a couple of questions regarding green stickers.

Basically, whats the deal with the stickers and two strokes. If I buy a late 80's early 90's two stroke and it doesnt have one, can I still get one for it? Are there limitations as to which parks I could take it? Are there any modification limititations - spark arrestors etc?

Obviously its been a long time, and if any one can be of any help - I would greatly appreciate it!

CJ
 
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cartmen34

Well-known member
I last rode a MX'er on Cali State Park land early in 2001, and at the time this is what I knew. Things may have changed by then, so don't take this as what is still happening.

As I know it, as long as the two-stroke bike is '97 or earlier and has a spark arrestor, it is legal to ride and "Green stickerable". If the bike is newer than '97...well you are playing at your own risk. However, the last bike I had was a 2000 CR250, and I was able to get a green sticker for it directly from the DOT.

At the time most of the parks rangers didn't really care what bike you had. I actually had one comment on my nice new CR. He knew it was a 2000 and I'm sure he knew it wasn't "legal", but it had a green sticker and a spark arrestor, so he didn't have a problem with it.

Like I said, times do change, and this was almost 2 years ago.

And I don't really think the 4 strokes are any different. You still have to have a green sticker and a spark arrestor. Of course, I don't really know, as I've never had a 4 stroke dirt bike.

I'd take a trip to a local park some sunday and ask the people actually riding. I think they would be the best source of info.

Hope this helps!
 
Farmer John

Farmer John

Well-known member
Competition bikes manufactured before Jan 1 1997 get green stickers. After that date they are supposed to get red stickers. I know many people who have purchased 98 & newer bikes & got green stickers. I know a few that have gotten nasty letters from the DMV & were required to change to red stickers.

The difference in the stickers is that with a green sticker you are legal all year round, with a red sticker some riding areas have restrictions on what time of the year you may ride.
Here is the red sticker seasons blatantly plagerized from Offroadrider.com

Red Sticker Riding Seasons:

State Parks (SVRAs)
1. Carnegie Nov 1 - Apr 30
2. Clay Pit Nov 1 - Jun 30
3. Hollister Hills Oct 1 - May 25
4. Hungry Valley Oct 1 - Apr 30
5. Ocotillo Wells Oct 15 - May 15
6. Oceano Dunes Sep 15 - May 15
7. Prairie City Oct 15 - Apr 15
8. Mammoth Bar Oct 1 - May 31

Other Jurisdictions
1. Frank Raines Oct 1 - May 31
2. Glen Helen (closed course)
3. La Grange Nov 1 - Mar 31
4. Park Moabi Year-round
5. Riverfront Park Year-round
6. Santa Clara (Metcalf) Nov 1 - Apr 30
8. Black Butte Lake Year-round
9. Laguna Seca (closed course)
10. Tulare Cycle Park (closed course)
11. Hanford Cycle Park (closed course)
12. Porterville OHV Park (closed course)


Bureau of Land Management
Bakersfield District Office
1. Clear Creek Oct 1 _May 3l
2. Bishop Year-round
BLM Northern California (NORCAL)
3. Fort Sage Year-round
4. Samoa Dunes Year-round
5. Black Sands Year-round
6. Chappie-Shasta Oct 1 - May 31
7. South Cow Mountain Year-round
8. Knoxville Year-round
California Desert District Office
9. Olancha Dunes Year-round
10. Panamint (closed) Year-round
11. Spangler Hills Oct 1 - May 31
12. Jawbone/Dove Oct 1 - May 31
13. Dumont Dunes Nov I - Apr 30
14. Stoddard Valley Oct 1 - Apr 30
15. Johnson Valley Oct 1 - Apr 30
16. Superstition Mountain Oct 1 - May 31
17. Imperial/Glamis/Gecko Oct 1 - Apr 30
18. Plaster City Oct 1 - May 31
19. Imperial/ Oct 1, Apr 30
Buttercup Valley
20. Lark Canyon Dec 1 - Jan 31
21. Rasor Oct 1 - Apr 30
22. Imperial/Mammoth Wash Oct 1 - Apr 30
24. El Mirage/Shadow Mtns. Nov 1 - Mar 1
California Desert District Office
25. Rice Valley Year-round
26. Parker Strip Year-round

U.S. Forest Service
Angeles National Forest
1. Mt. Baldy Dec 1 - Jan 31
2. Rowher Flat Nov 1 -; March 31
3. Tujunga Dec 1 - Jan 31
4. Littlerock Nov 1 - March 31
Cleveland National Forest
5. Corral Canyon Dec 1 - Jan 31
6. Wildomar Dec 1 - Feb 28
Eldorado National Forest
7. Mace Mill - Rock Creek Oct 15 - May 31
8. Barrett Lake Year-round
Inyo National Forest
9. Poleta Year-round
Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit
16. Kings Beach Year-round
Los Padres National Forest
17. Alamo Mountain Oct 15 - Apr 30
18. Ballinger Canyon Nov 1 - Mar 15
19. Black Mountain. Oct 1 - Apr 30
20. Santa Barbara Nov 15 - Mar 15
21. Ortega Trail Nov 15 - Mar 15
Mendocino National Forest
22. Davis Flat Year-round
23. Lake Pillsbury Year-round
24. Elk Mountain. Year-round
Plumas National Forest
26. Gold Lake Year-round
27. Dixie Mtn. Year-round
28. Mosquito Creek Year-round
29. Deadman Springs Year-round
30. Cleghorn Bar Year-round
31. Big Creek Year-round
San Bernardino National Forest
32. Lake Arrowead Nov 1 - Feb 28
33. Big Bear Nov 1 - Feb 28
34. San Jacinto Nov 1 - Feb 28
35. Lytle Creek Nov 1 - Feb 28
Sequoia National Forest
36. Tule River Nov 1 - Apr 30
37. Frog Meadow Nov 1 - Apr 30
38. Kennedy Meadows Year-round
Shasta-Trinity National Forest
39. Hayfork Year-round
40. McCloud Year-round
Sierra National Forest
41. Kings River Nov 1 - May 31
42. Shaver Lake Nov 1 - May 31
43. Hites Cove Nov 1 - May 31
44. Miami Creek Nov 1 - May 31
Six Rivers National Forest
46A. Smith Rivers NRA Year-round
Stanislaus National Forest
46. Niagara Ridge Year-round
47. Date Flat Oct 1 - May 31
48. Deer Creek. Oct 1 - May 31
49. Corral Hollow Oct 1 - May 31
Tahoe National Forest
50. Foresthill OHV Oct 1 - May 31
53. Fordyce Jeep Trail Oct 1 - May 31
54. Truckee Year - round
56. Prosser Hills Year-round
58. Downieville Year-round
 
J

JoeBar

Well-known member
CJ, you have to have a sticker (either red or green) on your bike to enter an OHV park. If the bike has been manufactuered BEFORE January 1st 1997, it automatically gets a green sticker. For the bike manufactured AFTER January 1st 1997: If there is a 3 or C in the eighth position of the VIN of your bike, it means that it does not meet the emission standards, thus it gets a red sticker. If the 8th digit is anything else than 3 or C, then it is a green sticker.

For more info, read:
http://www.ocwatercraft.com/green_sticker.htm
http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike/news/2002mar/caohvstickers/
http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=1235

Spark arrestors are mandatory in most OHV parks, but that doesn't have anything to do with the Green sticker...

:infrandom
 
OaklandF4i

OaklandF4i

Darwin's exception
Thanks guys! I appreciate the info and resources, thats exactly what I was looking for.

Looks like I will be ok as my budget is for a bike built long before 97.

Thanks again!
 
J

JoeBar

Well-known member
The first time you go out and ride, make sure you get your bike sound tested. You can get a big fine if you are caught on the trails with a bike that is measured above the 96db sound limit.

:infrandom
 
OaklandF4i

OaklandF4i

Darwin's exception
Good call - I wouldnt have done that. I'm basically looking for an older CR I can rebuild (both engine and suspension) for under $1k. I'd be looking at keeping or returning the engine to factory stock running condition for reliability.

Have folks had issues meeting the decibil limit with the stock arrestor/silencer?
 
J

JoeBar

Well-known member
I think it is mostly the 4-strokes YZF and CRF that have problems. A 2-stroker with stock exhaust should be fine...

I had to put a FMF Quiet pipe on my YZ400F to barely meet the limitation! Before, I was at 103db!!!

I doesn't hurt to stop at the sound test station the first time you go riding just to make sure you are ok (and to get the sticker ;)).
 
V4

V4

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE
I hope there's a Dirty Forum soon.....

I got tons of questions before I get a dirt bike of my own and afterwards from you guys.....
 
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RZ331

RZ331

Motojunkie
John, there will be a dirt forum coming soon. Its on Steves to do list:thumbup


I think I had seen Pierre asking about the forum somewhere:laughing
 
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