Central Western Nevada: October 17-20

DonTom

Well-known member
The Mountain range south of Austin is awesome. The Big Creek campground is beautiful - right on the creek. If you follow the road that goes by the campground through the mountains to the east (lots of fun water crossings), it dumps you out in Kingston.
While I have ridden through Austin as well as over Carrol Summit (on the road south of Austin, NV) many times on bikes, I have never noticed Big Creek Campground.

So now I am curious about it. Is it for tent camping (car & cycle camping), or can an RV get there and stay at that campground?

-Don- Reno, NV
 

DonTom

Well-known member
Why are you taking 80 and 50 Hwy 4 and Hwy 88 are far better rides.
More than likely to save many hours of riding.

I like Hwy 4 the best, but it is also the slowest and most narrow roads. And a lot of deer, often even in the very middle of the day. I have seen several deer right on the middle of the road around noon time.

Take I-80 when you don't have much time.

I often go between here and Auburn. When I want to take my time, I take Hwy 20. I take 80 when I want to get there faster.

I was going there this Wednesday, but now PG&E is threatening to shut off the power again. I will stay here in Reno until PG&E stops playing games.

-Don- Reno, NV
 

TheRavenQueen

Active member
Hey RavenQueen,

ran into you CB500X friend George (bananachunks) last night, and we had fun thinking about your NV ride this weekend ...

Hope you had fun! :thumbup:ride

Yes, fun was had. When I recover I'll post a ride report.

I got back yesterday (Monday) morning at 5am. Sunday afternoon my clutch overheated and stopped working about 100 feet from the top of a mountain we had been climbing. A Jeep came by and towed me to the top, where we waited for the clutch to cool down. I was able to hobble it to the asphalt and to the nearest town (Wellington, NV), but not any farther.

Brian rode home alone at that time. Matt had left earlier in the trip because he wasn't feeling well and the sub-freezing overnight temps were not helping.

I hung out in Wellington for 5 hours while a guy I'm seeing drove from San Francisco with his truck to pick me and my bike up.

I'm riding a Husky 701SM. I bought it to be a street bike. When I started riding dirt, I thought I'd try it out off-road and put some TKC80s on it. The gearing is for the street and really tall for technical off-road, thus leading to a burnt out clutch. The chain is getting kinky, so I'll change out the sprockets now too. He'll go 120 mph top speed right now. I don't need all that, so lower gearing will be fine. I just need to figure what sizes to get. Currently he's 16:42. Looks like the 701 Enduro is 15:46. Feel free to chime in on what size sprockets you have, if you have a similar sized bike.
 
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yumdumpster

Well-known member
Yes, fun was had. When I recover I'll post a ride report.

I got back yesterday (Monday) morning at 5am. Sunday afternoon my clutch overheated and stopped working about 100 feet from the top of a mountain we had been climbing. A Jeep came by and towed me to the top, where we waited for the clutch to cool down. I was able to hobble it to the asphalt and to the nearest town (Wellington, NV), but not any farther.

Brian rode home alone at that time. Matt had left earlier in the trip because he wasn't feeling well and the sub-freezing overnight temps were not helping.

I hung out in Wellington for 5 hours while a guy I'm seeing drove from San Francisco with his truck to pick me and my bike up.

I'm riding a Husky 701SM. I bought it to be a street bike. When I started riding dirt, I thought I'd try it out off-road and put some TKC80s on it. The gearing is for the street and really tall for technical off-road, thus leading to a burnt out clutch. The chain is getting kinky, so I'll change out the sprockets now too. He'll go 120 mph top speed right now. I don't need all that, so lower gearing will be fine. I just need to figure what sizes to get. Currently he's 16:42. Looks like the 701 Enduro is 15:46. Feel free to chime in on what size sprockets you have, if you have a similar sized bike.

I am running 15/45 with one less gear, I was.... uncomfortable.. at 75 on the way back. You would probably be fine with similar gearing considering you have an extra gear on me and it allows you to lug up a lot of hills without too much shifting.

Sorry to hear you burned up your clutch, good time to do some upgrades though!

XR is not very good on the highway, I put a deposit down on a 2020 790 Adventure R when I got back, need something that doesn't make my hands numb after more than 10 miles on the highway.
 

Eric B

Know-it-none
Yes, fun was had. When I recover I'll post a ride report.

I got back yesterday (Monday) morning at 5am. Sunday afternoon my clutch overheated and stopped working about 100 feet from the top of a mountain we had been climbing. A Jeep came by and towed me to the top, where we waited for the clutch to cool down. I was able to hobble it to the asphalt and to the nearest town (Wellington, NV), but not any farther.

Brian rode home alone at that time. Matt had left earlier in the trip because he wasn't feeling well and the sub-freezing overnight temps were not helping.

I hung out in Wellington for 5 hours while a guy I'm seeing drove from San Francisco with his truck to pick me and my bike up.

I'm riding a Husky 701SM. I bought it to be a street bike. When I started riding dirt, I thought I'd try it out off-road and put some TKC80s on it. The gearing is for the street and really tall for technical off-road, thus leading to a burnt out clutch. The chain is getting kinky, so I'll change out the sprockets now too. He'll go 120 mph top speed right now. I don't need all that, so lower gearing will be fine. I just need to figure what sizes to get. Currently he's 16:42. Looks like the 701 Enduro is 15:46. Feel free to chime in on what size sprockets you have, if you have a similar sized bike.

Perhaps, Woods Chick could offer some feedback. She has had similar setups(SM bike with TKC 80 tires). A 701 forum may be a good resource as well.
Looking forward to a ride report. :ride
 
Yes, fun was had. When I recover I'll post a ride report.

cool ... looking forward to hearing what mountain the jeep pulled you up! :thumbup

when I have a NV ride planned I often just drone up 80 to be able to camp in NV the first night ...

otherwise takes me a day-and-a-half to get to NV if I take Hwy 4 or 88 or 108 or 120 or 70 and I have to camp in CA the first night. :dunno:ride

anyway, hope you found a NV hot-spring, too ... :party
 

TheRavenQueen

Active member
The Jeep pulled me up Lobdell Summit.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/L...8m2!3d38.6510259!4d-119.1707083!5m1!1e4?hl=en

I've put our actual tracks with the planned route here. Red is actual. Blue is planned. Some reroutes were because the terrain was too difficult or impassable. Some were due to running out of time or fuel. We didn't get as far as we wanted the first day, so that changed the entire rest of the trip.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=12aITprZbNj-ipPHvSIAhhblb-pV1v3CN&usp=sharing
 

TheRavenQueen

Active member
In Gardnerville we hear,
Both our routes through,
The Pinenut Mountains are smooth,
The north one easier,
So we take the south.

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Double-track with embedded rocks,
Creek-crossings, ruts, and mud,
Then come the big rocks 10”-18”,
In several 100' wash sections,
Pick your line well and keep going.

I'm small enough,
When my bike pins me down,
I can pull my foot out of my boot and crawl free.
My cook-set is so contorted with dents,
It barely sits on my stove for dinner.

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Instead of continuing we return to Mt Siegel,
Head north along the ridge,
Toward the northern route,
The worst is over,
But the sun is setting.

We camp at 6500',
Higher than planned,
Fortunately there's a lot of wood around,
To build a fire in the road,
And heat a stone to warm my tent.

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We wake to a glistening, frost-covered world,
Large chunks of ice float in our water.
The northern route is a fire road.
A grove of yellow aspen,
Greet up on our descent.

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We pass the turn off to the Pony Express Route,
To make up some time on the pavement.
At Silver Springs we gas up and lunch.
Matt heads home, he has not been well,
The sub-freezing night didn't help.

Brian and I continue to Fallon,
Try Bobcat Trail over to Dixie Valley,
Easy, loose double-track,
Until a steep 50' hill climb.
We back track and take a dirt road.

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Cresting the pass shows a glowing pink valley below,
Pass several fenced clusters of military equipment.
To our surprise the valley floor road is paved,
Quickening our pace to the hot springs,
It's very dark when we arrive, the moon rises late tonight.

Pull off the road shining our headlights around,
All we find are fences with,
“Keep Out – Sensitive Habitat” signs.
Disappointed we return,
To the valley end of Bobcat Trail to camp.

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Saturday we try the trail,
Double-track lined with blooming sage,
After a rocky, silty, rutty climb,
We turn around in hopes that,
Brain's gas lasts.

“Nowhere Nevada” is painted on a cistern,
Emphasizing Middlegate's reprieve,
Lunching travelers, hunters, and ATV-riders,
A guitarist serenades us,
While his daughter films on her phone.

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Swing by Cold Springs looking for a trail map,
Brian finds a postcard instead,
A KTM-rider coming from Moab,
Stayed at Spencer hot springs last night,
Offers condolences on our unsuccessful springs search.

We pass a mine by Gabbs,
Systematically erasing the mountains.
At Mina's RV park we find a booklet of trail maps,
The product of a local rider,
Very thorough, but too big for me.

The gravel is deep heading into the mountains,
Turning to embedded rocks,
A pair of hunters tells us the road is impassable,
We head back to a promising graded road,
An on-coming truck confirms our path to Hawthorne.

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Brian switches to reserve 10 miles from the asphalt,
Entering town in the waning light,
He eyes the motel vacancy signs.
A hot shower is amazing,
Followed by dinner at El Capitan casino.

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Check out the Ordnance Museum Sunday,
Then over Lucky Boy Pass,
Note the road to Walker River hot springs,
Cross a bridge under yellow trees,
With a half moon watching from the sky.

Climb into the mountains past ghost town Pine Grove,
A springy pine treeling shoves me into the road,
As I try to push by it,
My knee crackles on the way down,
But no serious damage done.

The road rut grows wider,
The road sides more sloped,
We can only power up the rocks in the middle,
100' from Lobdell Summit Jack's clutch stops working,
A Jeep tows him the rest of the way.

We wait for the clutch to cool,
Finally limp our way to the asphalt,
To the nearest town: Wellington, NV,
Brian continues home,
While I wait at CG Bar.

John drives from San Francisco,
To pick me and Jack up,
Arriving at 11:30pm as Elizabeth finishes cleaning,
We drop Jack off in front of Tokyo Moto,
And head home around 5am.

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thedub

Octane Socks
Super awesome! Great ride, great report! Holy cow, I don't think I've ever seen a clutch so smoked!

I've ridden a lot of the routes you just did (you went right by my house on day 1 in Gville), so I know what you are talking about when when you say some of the terrain became too difficult. What starts out as an easy service road, can turn rocky and rutted and steep and downright difficult once it heads up into the hills. That's why I chose a 500 for my dual sport bike, over a 690/701, so we don't get turned around when the going gets tough. It's not hard to suddenly find yourself on a road/trail that is too much for a 701 out there.
 
Super awesome! Great ride, great report!

+1! great ride report RavenQueen ...
love when they start before the ride and we get to see follow-up pics. :ride

been by Lobdell Summit and through Pine Grove years ago on a KLR and ...
it was a handful through the canyon in the hills above that ghost town ... :laughing
 
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thedub

Octane Socks
been by Lobdell Summit and through Pine Grove years ago on a KLR and ...
it was a handful through the canyon in the hills above that ghost town ... :laughing

Climb into the mountains past ghost town Pine Grove,
A springy pine treeling shoves me into the road,
As I try to push by it,
My knee crackles on the way down,
But no serious damage done.

The road rut grows wider,
The road sides more sloped,
We can only power up the rocks in the middle,
100' from Lobdell Summit Jack's clutch stops working,
A Jeep tows him the rest of the way.

I'm pretty sure I know the exact spot on that road out of Pine Grove, up towards the radio tower, that you're talking about. It gets steep and the rain rut is absolutely enormous.
 

1962siia

Well-known member
Thank for sharing. I want to explore Nevada. Need to do this for sure at some point. Great pics and man that fiction plate is seriously toast!!! :teeth
 

yarrrrr

Well-known member
While I have ridden through Austin as well as over Carrol Summit (on the road south of Austin, NV) many times on bikes, I have never noticed Big Creek Campground.

So now I am curious about it. Is it for tent camping (car & cycle camping), or can an RV get there and stay at that campground?

-Don- Reno, NV


Hey Don,

I would say most are trailer camping at that site. It is defo a locals spot. One of my favs, it is usually cool when the valley is hot, the creek is nice and it is rarely crowded.

Awesome trip Marilyn!
 

DonTom

Well-known member
Hey Don,

I would say most are trailer camping at that site. It is defo a locals spot. One of my favs, it is usually cool when the valley is hot, the creek is nice and it is rarely crowded.
Thanks for the info! I was just thinking nobody would reply to my questions.

I have been by there, but next time I am I will check it out. Thanks!

-Don- Reno, NV
 
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