Cars that make your jaw drop.

TheRobSJ

Großer Mechaniker
Agree. The RUF cars started looking like the right direction. I'm not a real big fan of 911 and variants as there is something about the way they drive I just don't dig. That said, I was a bit of a fan of what Uwe Gemballa was doing with them from a styling aspect.

I agree that the Ruf cars made the meh looking 911 a lot more appealing. Older ones don’t do anything for me at all. Even a 991.2 is nothing special to me. I will admit that the 992 is very nice to drive and is a very refined package. Plus they finally feel like it isn’t such a cramped cockpit to me. Could just as easily daily one of those as one could a Corvette. Probably even better. The 992s have way more headroom than any Corvette I’ve been in, which is important when you’re my height.

Those Gemballas are straight garbage to me though. That’s “cartoonish” epitomized to my eyes.
 

Ogg

Oggito ergo sum
Is it bad that I’d rather have the Cayman? :dunno

Nope. Were I just a few inches shorter, I would likely have gone that way...

That said, that’s still a one hundred thousand US dollar car.

which actually puts the BMW M2 at the top of my "if only I were shorter" hooligan car list for about half the money.

Could just as easily daily one of those as one could a Corvette. Probably even better. The 992s have way more headroom than any Corvette I’ve been in, which is important when you’re my height.

Mine's a 991.2. I'm 6'5". Both a daily driver and good for road trips. Tons of head/leg room, great seat. Doesn't bother me, but compared to a sedan or SUV for roadtrips, the lack of sound deadening/insulation is not for everyone. Last I tried, I don't fit in modern Corvettes.
 

TheRobSJ

Großer Mechaniker
Mine's a 991.2. I'm 6'5". Both a daily driver and good for road trips. Tons of head/leg room, great seat. Doesn't bother me, but compared to a sedan or SUV for roadtrips, the lack of sound deadening/insulation is not for everyone. Last I tried, I don't fit in modern Corvettes.

I don’t fit in modern Corvettes either. But it checks all the other boxes for me, so I live with it. I sit a little further forward than I’d like to, and have to scrunch down in the seat if I am wearing a helmet as the top of my head grazes the headliner as is.

Seats. As we all know I’m a Corvette guy. But JFC the seats in Corvettes have just been awful in comparison to Porsche. The 18 way adaptive seats in all the Porsches can fit just about anyone. Not the buckets though...oh definitely not those. The new C8 has finally gotten some good seats, but it seems like my age old problem in ‘Vettes of the back of my head hitting the halo bar is worse than ever in the C8.

Oh and if you’re only wish list on the 911 is sound deadening, then if you go drive a 992 (preferably with the optional noise insulating glass), you might make an expensive financial decision that day.
 
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fraz

Well-known member
Seats. As we all know I’m a Corvette guy. But JFC the seats in Corvettes have just been awful in comparison to Porsche. The 18 way adaptive seats in all the Porsches can fit just about anyone. Not the buckets though...oh definitely not those. The new C8 has finally gotten some good seats, but it seems like my age old problem in ‘Vettes of the back of my head hitting the halo bar is worse than ever in the C8.

Saw this pop up on the algorithm yesterday and thought you might like. Love or hate Foose, dude has a talent and vision. GM should hire him as a design consultant IMO.


youtu.be/29JXdqflivw
 

TheRobSJ

Großer Mechaniker
Saw this pop up on the algorithm yesterday and thought you might like. Love or hate Foose, dude has a talent and vision. GM should hire him as a design consultant IMO.


youtu.be/29JXdqflivw

For the record, I like what like what he did. It does look better.

But it’s a totally different layout now. Trying to preserve Corvettes of past with the long hood line, fender vent, and so on is a lost cause. This is why the C7 is the last true Corvette to me. This new thing is Corvette in name only. GM of course is going to use the brand name for it. But I would have preferred they just named this new thing Fiero or something entirely new.

You can tell he’s a designer first and engineer....second if at all. His front end will not pass pedestrian impact standards. His fender vents are too small to feed the heat exchanger(s). And the even higher door line makes the C8’s side and rearward visibility even worse than it already is. The C8 has those huge scoops on the side to feed a single radiator on the right side in the Z51 package now (otherwise the standard radiators are up front on the sides. But they are that big to feed more radiators for much higher output powertrains in the near future.

Designers always lose some of their vision of a car once engineers step in and tweak proportions to meet packaging/safety/aero requirements.
 
I'll probably take the later edition C8 for a test spin once they come out with the 800hp version...dunno if I'll be able to justify the purchase at that point but can't wait to see the track times and how it lines up against its supercar / hypercar rivals for 1/4 the price.
 
I could probably live with a measly 450hp Vette if I had to

Buddy of mine bought one a couple years out of college. He's....not exactly known for being a car enthusiast. His previous vehicle was one of those 1990s 4 door sedan gutless beaters, and the only car he'd ever had or driven. We strongly encouraged him to get some driving classes and such with the purchase.

He got scared of it after about 8 months and swapped it for a Miata and has since discovered the joys of flogging a Miata vs babying a 'vette.

...on the flip side of that I've previously owned no fewer than 3 different 400 horsepower vehicles (plus 3 different relatively fast bikes including two sportbikes) and driven cars with 1,200 hp before. So while I'd definitely enroll immediately in some trackday / performance driving schools with the purchase - IF I made it - I feel quite a bit more comfortable with high performance vehicles.
 

TheRobSJ

Großer Mechaniker
Buddy of mine bought one a couple years out of college. He's....not exactly known for being a car enthusiast. His previous vehicle was one of those 1990s 4 door sedan gutless beaters, and the only car he'd ever had or driven. We strongly encouraged him to get some driving classes and such with the purchase.

GM has been doing that for sometime with the Corvettes and Cadillac V cars. Partial or full tuition paid to the Ron Fellows school at Spring Mountain.

When I went last year, it was obvious even on day 1 who really didn’t have any experience pushing a high performance car. I definitely got something out of the class too, but it very much was a necessary thing for those people. Shocking how many people still can get off track even while following and instructor with all safety nannies on.
 

Ogg

Oggito ergo sum
Good example is the GT3 posted earlier. At some point they're no fun to drive anywhere but on the track (or, perhaps, a well groomed twisty road somewhere). The M5 CS I posted earlier would likely be a nightmare as a daily. Hell, I had a '16 M5 that was pretty miserable in any kind of congested traffic or city driving.
 

TheRobSJ

Großer Mechaniker
Good example is the GT3 posted earlier. At some point they're no fun to drive anywhere but on the track (or, perhaps, a well groomed twisty road somewhere). The M5 CS I posted earlier would likely be a nightmare as a daily. Hell, I had a '16 M5 that was pretty miserable in any kind of congested traffic or city driving.

The GT3 Touring might be livable day to day. Maybe. But any GT car with the sport buckets? Helllll no. My god those seats pretty much commit the car to just being a track weapon only.
 

Map8

I want nothing
Staff member
What do you guys think of the new Camaro?

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auntiebling

megalomaniacal troglodyte
Staff member
I agree that the Ruf cars made the meh looking 911 a lot more appealing. Older ones don’t do anything for me at all. Even a 991.2 is nothing special to me. I will admit that the 992 is very nice to drive and is a very refined package. Plus they finally feel like it isn’t such a cramped cockpit to me. Could just as easily daily one of those as one could a Corvette. Probably even better. The 992s have way more headroom than any Corvette I’ve been in, which is important when you’re my height.

Those Gemballas are straight garbage to me though. That’s “cartoonish” epitomized to my eyes.
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Ogg

Oggito ergo sum
The GT3 Touring might be livable day to day. Maybe. But any GT car with the sport buckets? Helllll no. My god those seats pretty much commit the car to just being a track weapon only.

I can't recall exactly which variant it was (GT2? GT3 RS?), but the simple act of squeezing between the seat side-bolster and the roll cage was an act of contortionism almost beyond me. I tally it up as good for racin' and good for posin', but not much in between.
 
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