bar mounted rear hand brake

ex-walker

Well-known member
Looking for the easiest way to mount a left side of the bars rear brake on a fj09. There is not a lot of room. Just trying to figure out how to do it. Any suggestions or references are appreciated. Thanks
 

shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
You could go with a thumb brake. What are you ultimately trying to do? Do you want to lock it up, bring a wheelie down, or just assist a bum foot?
 

ex-walker

Well-known member
I wanted the rear brake for wheelies.

I would like to know more about linking the brakes. I didn't know this was an option. I there a shop that would do this ?
 

shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
Linking brakes is easy. You just need a line to go from the from the front master to the rear master with two double banjo bolts. Measure the run, and look at the banjo bend. Then all you have to do is order the braided line (all around so they are even, and add in a double banjo bolt to the two masters.

A thumb brake will do the same thing, but only activate the rear. It will not lock the rear unless you are in the dirt.
 

ex-walker

Well-known member
Linking brakes is easy. You just need a line to go from the from the front master to the rear master with two double banjo bolts. Measure the run, and look at the banjo bend. Then all you have to do is order the braided line (all around so they are even, and add in a double banjo bolt to the two masters.

A thumb brake will do the same thing, but only activate the rear. It will not lock the rear unless you are in the dirt.

If I use a rear thumb or hand brake, do I run the brake line directly to the rear master or do I tie into the existing brake line. The bike is a fj09 and has abs.
 

Cincinnatus

Not-quite retired Army
How about you learn how to ride the bike well first (which should take a few years), then see if the only thing you want to do with your bike is wheelie it? Learning to ride competently in all situations (rain, sleet, winds, night, long-distance, etc.) might lead to many more things.
 

Phanuel

Confused
Ok Lou. Did you even read the thread? He has another post in general with a picture of his bike with a wheelchair on the back.
 

Enchanter

Ghost in The Machine
Staff member
If I use a rear thumb or hand brake, do I run the brake line directly to the rear master or do I tie into the existing brake line. The bike is a fj09 and has abs.

This is the important part.

While it is not impossible to add a second master-cylinder to the current system, if you want the ABS to function properly, you should not do this. Remove or disconnect the original master-cylinder and replace it with a hand / thumb operated one, and run the line from that to the ABS pump.

If that is not an option, or you want to retain the function of the OEM master-cylinder, you will need to add a completely separate system to the motorcycle: master-cylinder, line, AND caliper.
 

ex-walker

Well-known member
How about you learn how to ride the bike well first (which should take a few years), then see if the only thing you want to do with your bike is wheelie it? Learning to ride competently in all situations (rain, sleet, winds, night, long-distance, etc.) might lead to many more things.

Mr Cincinnati's, I am a two time national speedway qualifier in the early nineties (thats the top 18 American riders and two from over seas) in 95 I won the hollister national in the over 30 expert class and was district 36 #1plate. got divorced MISSED a few years then got into desert racing. I have 9 over all wins, two best in the desert #1 plates and to many over /30/40 expert class wins to remember. I think I am ready to ride a wheelie. It's not the only reason I need a rear brake.
 
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ex-walker

Well-known member
This is the important part.

While it is not impossible to add a second master-cylinder to the current system, if you want the ABS to function properly, you should not do this. Remove or disconnect the original master-cylinder and replace it with a hand / thumb operated one, and run the line from that to the ABS pump.

If that is not an option, or you want to retain the function of the OEM master-cylinder, you will need to add a completely separate system to the motorcycle: master-cylinder, line, AND caliper.

Thank you for taking the time to explain this. I am going to have to think about this.
 

shouldnthave

Taze away, Yana...
If I use a rear thumb or hand brake, do I run the brake line directly to the rear master or do I tie into the existing brake line. The bike is a fj09 and has abs.

Typicaly you would attach to the top of the rear master allowing the fluid to run through the two brake lines kind of like bypassing the rear master. The foot control will still work. With ABS, I'm not sure as I only do it to my dirt bikes for better control.

It does sound like Enchanter may have more knowledge about ABS than I would. In my mind though attaching to the rear master would still work, but you may lose ABS to the rear (I can't see any way this would damage the system unless motorcycle ABS is vastly different than car ABS). Really only two ways to find out. Try it, or ask an expert. I'm more of a try it sort of guy myself. I know a good resource for thumb brakes should you decide to go that route.


ETA: Give Leonard a shout HardRacing211@aol.com he makes thumb brakes for stunners. He would absolutely know I bet.
 
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ex-walker

Well-known member
Thanks. I have a few things to finish and get dialed in on the bike. Then I will start on the brake
 

Cincinnatus

Not-quite retired Army
Mr Cincinnati's, I am a two time national speedway qualifier in the early nineties (thats the top 18 American riders and two from over seas) in 95 I won the hollister national in the over 30 expert class and was district 36 #1plate. got divorced MISSED a few years then got into desert racing. I have 9 over all wins, two best in the desert #1 plates and to many over /30/40 expert class wins to remember. I think I am ready to ride a wheelie. It's not the only reason I need a rear brake.

Sorry for my comprehension gap, my apologies. :thumbup

Do what you want to your bike, I'll stand back & :applause :hail
 

ex-walker

Well-known member
Sorry for my comprehension gap, my apologies. :thumbup

Do what you want to your bike, I'll stand back & :applause :hail

No problem. I won't lie, it was a little hard on my ego:teeth. even after 11 years post injury I still have a hard time letting go of the past and realizing I am not the man I once was. If you ever see me around, please say hi and we can laugh about it.
 

Cincinnatus

Not-quite retired Army
What's going on in your head sometimes has little to do with your body. Watch Murderball sometime - https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/murderball/

"Like any other great sports story, 'Murderball' features fierce rivalry, stopwatch suspense, dazzling athletic prowess, larger-than-life personalities and triumph over daunting odds. But murderball, the original name for the full-contact sport now known as quad rugby, is played by quadriplegics in armored wheelchairs. 'Murderball' is a story like no other, told by men who see the world from a different angle. Quad rugby players have suffered injuries that have left them with limited function in all four limbs. Whether by car wreck, gunshot, fist fight, rogue bacteria or any of an endless list of possible misadventures, quad rugby's young men have found their lives dramatically altered. Watching them in action -- both on court and off -- smashes every stereotype one has ever had about the handicapped. It also redefines what it is to be a man, what it is to live a full life, and what it is to be a winner."
 
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